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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:10 am 
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I have a complaint and I'm not sure if anything can be done or will be done about it. I have been seeing a lot of threads lately discussing how to cheat on drug tests. I know this is an open forum, but it seems like the kind of thing that doesn't need to be brought up all of the time on a Pearl Jam message board.

The last time I checked, illegal drugs are still illegal and trying to cheat on a drug test is also still illegal. In my opinion, discussion about it should be kept off the message boards, just like talking about distributing copywritten material (improperly) is blocked. I like free speech just like any other guy, but this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be put up with in the public forums.

I have donated money to the site previously, since I believe it is a forum worthy of being kept up. It is kind of annoying when other threads are being locked due to their stupidity, but the "drug test threads" continue for pages and pages. I am simply suggesting that maybe the moderators and webmasters might consider blocking this stuff from the public forums.

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I have a complaint and I'm not sure if anything can be done or will be done about it. I have been seeing a lot of threads lately discussing how to cheat on drug tests. I know this is an open forum, but it seems like the kind of thing that doesn't need to be brought up all of the time on a Pearl Jam message board.

The last time I checked, illegal drugs are still illegal and trying to cheat on a drug test is also still illegal. In my opinion, discussion about it should be kept off the message boards, just like talking about distributing copywritten material (improperly) is blocked. I like free speech just like any other guy, but this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be put up with in the public forums.

I have donated money to the site previously, since I believe it is a forum worthy of being kept up. It is kind of annoying when other threads are being locked due to their stupidity, but the "drug test threads" continue for pages and pages. I am simply suggesting that maybe the moderators and webmasters might consider blocking this stuff from the public forums.


it would probably help if half the mods werent stoners ;)

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Peeps wrote:
hiprocks wrote:
I have a complaint and I'm not sure if anything can be done or will be done about it. I have been seeing a lot of threads lately discussing how to cheat on drug tests. I know this is an open forum, but it seems like the kind of thing that doesn't need to be brought up all of the time on a Pearl Jam message board.

The last time I checked, illegal drugs are still illegal and trying to cheat on a drug test is also still illegal. In my opinion, discussion about it should be kept off the message boards, just like talking about distributing copywritten material (improperly) is blocked. I like free speech just like any other guy, but this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be put up with in the public forums.

I have donated money to the site previously, since I believe it is a forum worthy of being kept up. It is kind of annoying when other threads are being locked due to their stupidity, but the "drug test threads" continue for pages and pages. I am simply suggesting that maybe the moderators and webmasters might consider blocking this stuff from the public forums.


it would probably help if half the mods werent stoners ;)

Come on now. I'd only have a toke if someone offered it to me for free.

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Peeps wrote:
hiprocks wrote:
I have a complaint and I'm not sure if anything can be done or will be done about it. I have been seeing a lot of threads lately discussing how to cheat on drug tests. I know this is an open forum, but it seems like the kind of thing that doesn't need to be brought up all of the time on a Pearl Jam message board.

The last time I checked, illegal drugs are still illegal and trying to cheat on a drug test is also still illegal. In my opinion, discussion about it should be kept off the message boards, just like talking about distributing copywritten material (improperly) is blocked. I like free speech just like any other guy, but this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be put up with in the public forums.

I have donated money to the site previously, since I believe it is a forum worthy of being kept up. It is kind of annoying when other threads are being locked due to their stupidity, but the "drug test threads" continue for pages and pages. I am simply suggesting that maybe the moderators and webmasters might consider blocking this stuff from the public forums.


it would probably help if half the mods werent stoners ;)

By my count, I think none of us are regular smokers (although one or two of us may smile on our pasts :wink: ).

My personal feeling is that it is a free speech issue. There are literally hundreds of websites out there discussing this topic, because discussion of it (and cleaning out one's bloodstream of toxins) is not in and of itself illegal. Unlike sharing copyrighted materials, which when discovered on websites the sites are shut down.

I will do what I can to merge all of teh threads into one, and I'm sure we'll end up discussing this amongst the mods, but I think it would be hypocritical of us to shut down discussion of this topic.

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hiprocks wrote:
I like free speech just like any other guy, but this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be put up with in the public forums.


:waah: :waah: :waah: :waah: :waah: :waah:

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hiprocks wrote:
I like free speech just like any other guy, but this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be put up with in the public forums.


:waah: :waah: :waah: :waah: :waah: :waah:


seriously, wtf?

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Clubber wrote:
bullet proof wrote:
hiprocks wrote:
I like free speech just like any other guy, but this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be put up with in the public forums.


:waah: :waah: :waah: :waah: :waah: :waah:


seriously, wtf?


you dont think its a smidge weird that you cant call someone a pickled dick bag, but can go into great detail how to beat a drug test?

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Peeps wrote:
Clubber wrote:
bullet proof wrote:
hiprocks wrote:
I like free speech just like any other guy, but this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be put up with in the public forums.


:waah: :waah: :waah: :waah: :waah: :waah:


seriously, wtf?


you dont think its a smidge weird that you cant call someone a pickled dick bag, but can go into great detail how to beat a drug test?


I'm glad someone shares the POV... but since my values are apparently transparent to a lot of people on here, it's probably time to move on. I've issued my "Retirement Statement" on the general discussion board.

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Peeps wrote:
Clubber wrote:
bullet proof wrote:
hiprocks wrote:
I like free speech just like any other guy, but this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be put up with in the public forums.


:waah: :waah: :waah: :waah: :waah: :waah:


seriously, wtf?


you dont think its a smidge weird that you cant call someone a pickled dick bag, but can go into great detail how to beat a drug test?


no

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Peeps wrote:
you dont think its a smidge weird that you cant call someone a pickled dick bag, but can go into great detail how to beat a drug test?

I've got hot tips on how to get away with jaywalking.


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hiprocks wrote:
I'm glad someone shares the POV... but since my values are apparently transparent to a lot of people on here, it's probably time to move on. I've issued my "Retirement Statement" on the general discussion board.

On behalf of the financiers of the site, allow me to thank you for your contributions. It is a matter of free speech, and as much as I do not approve of the topic in question, I do feel there's some benefit in people discussing it openly.

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Hinny wrote:
hiprocks wrote:
I'm glad someone shares the POV... but since my values are apparently transparent to a lot of people on here, it's probably time to move on. I've issued my "Retirement Statement" on the general discussion board.

On behalf of the financiers of the site, allow me to thank you for your contributions. It is a matter of free speech, and as much as I do not approve of the topic in question, I do feel there's some benefit in people discussing it openly.


Such as?

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I wish wrote:
Hinny wrote:
hiprocks wrote:
I'm glad someone shares the POV... but since my values are apparently transparent to a lot of people on here, it's probably time to move on. I've issued my "Retirement Statement" on the general discussion board.

On behalf of the financiers of the site, allow me to thank you for your contributions. It is a matter of free speech, and as much as I do not approve of the topic in question, I do feel there's some benefit in people discussing it openly.


Such as?


maybe getting drugged and having to get the E outta your system

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It seems that those encouraging free speech are taking that freedom to mean freedom from criticism.

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I wish wrote:
It seems that those encouraging free speech are taking that freedom to mean freedom from criticism.

Oh, I'm for people bringing it up so more sensible people can tell them this is a bad idea and change a few minds.

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I wish wrote:
Hinny wrote:
hiprocks wrote:
I'm glad someone shares the POV... but since my values are apparently transparent to a lot of people on here, it's probably time to move on. I've issued my "Retirement Statement" on the general discussion board.

On behalf of the financiers of the site, allow me to thank you for your contributions. It is a matter of free speech, and as much as I do not approve of the topic in question, I do feel there's some benefit in people discussing it openly.


Such as?


Proliferation of minds that push for legalization.


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Calling someone a dipshit or whatever is harmful. The drug test topic harms no one. It's as simple as that.

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Orpheus wrote:
Calling someone a dipshit or whatever is harmful. The drug
test topic harms no one. It's as simple as that.


I think it's pretty easy to make a reverse argument from that as well.


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how?

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Technically, discussing drug tests is not illegal, nor is discussing illegal file sharing. Last I checked, the discussion of illegal file sharing isn't moderated at all unless there are actually means provided whereby people can actually get copyrighted material via the board (links to media files, torrents, etc). I don't think I've seen any discussions regarding torrent sites, torrent programs, evading detection, etc., get stopped.

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