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My vote goes to Travis Hafner. He's put up crazy numbers over the past 3 seasons with very little fanfare (except in his home city Cleveland where he is the beloved Pronk with a section now named for him).

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Everybody has been saying he's under the radar since the All-Star break last year. I don't think it's true anymore.


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parchy wrote:
Everybody has been saying he's under the radar since the All-Star break last year. I don't think it's true anymore.

i disagree.. he didnt make the allstar team this yr and think he was leading or in the top 3 in homers rbis and slugging at the break, still unknown if u ask me

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Carlos Guillen.


Hafner didnt make the allstar team ONLY because there were 2 DH's on better teams having better years in bigger markets. Everyone knows who hafner is. Just because someone isnt on the Yankees or Red Sox doesnt mean they are automatically underrated.


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Yield05 wrote:
parchy wrote:
Everybody has been saying he's under the radar since the All-Star break last year. I don't think it's true anymore.

i disagree.. he didnt make the allstar team this yr and think he was leading or in the top 3 in homers rbis and slugging at the break, still unknown if u ask me


Exactly...didn't make the All Star team this year with 3 chances: regular ballot vote (no), coach selection (no), 2nd chance fan's vote (no, and I think he finished 4th of the 5 players in that vote).

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I always was a big fan of Wade Boggs, That guy was a hitting fool. I loved Wade Boggs.


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Pjten6 wrote:
Yield05 wrote:
parchy wrote:
Everybody has been saying he's under the radar since the All-Star break last year. I don't think it's true anymore.

i disagree.. he didnt make the allstar team this yr and think he was leading or in the top 3 in homers rbis and slugging at the break, still unknown if u ask me


Exactly...didn't make the All Star team this year with 3 chances: regular ballot vote (no), coach selection (no), 2nd chance fan's vote (no, and I think he finished 4th of the 5 players in that vote).


ty.. the last guy who posted about yankee red sox blabber,, read this.. i wouldnt mind if giambi or anyone else BUT jeter didnt make the team for hafner

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and it was chase utley but he's now known. man he's got the most compact, quick swing i've ever seen.

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Guillen was a good point also.. good hitter always solid. helped my teams out this in fantasy so far.

carl crawford is another guy who comes to mind,, he is known but is way better than advertised

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Pjten6 wrote:
Yield05 wrote:
parchy wrote:
Everybody has been saying he's under the radar since the All-Star break last year. I don't think it's true anymore.

i disagree.. he didnt make the allstar team this yr and think he was leading or in the top 3 in homers rbis and slugging at the break, still unknown if u ask me


Exactly...didn't make the All Star team this year with 3 chances: regular ballot vote (no), coach selection (no), 2nd chance fan's vote (no, and I think he finished 4th of the 5 players in that vote).


Regular Ballot vote- wouldnt win it with Ortiz on it
Coachs vote- like Ozzie isnt going to pick his DH
2nd Chance vote- 2 electric young rookie pitchers on the ballot (possible ROY and CY Young Candidates)

Hafner is roundly considered to be the 3rd best DH in the game. He is in no way unsung.


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edzeppe wrote:
Pjten6 wrote:
Yield05 wrote:
parchy wrote:
Everybody has been saying he's under the radar since the All-Star break last year. I don't think it's true anymore.

i disagree.. he didnt make the allstar team this yr and think he was leading or in the top 3 in homers rbis and slugging at the break, still unknown if u ask me


Exactly...didn't make the All Star team this year with 3 chances: regular ballot vote (no), coach selection (no), 2nd chance fan's vote (no, and I think he finished 4th of the 5 players in that vote).


Regular Ballot vote- wouldnt win it with Ortiz on it
Coachs vote- like Ozzie isnt going to pick his DH
2nd Chance vote- 2 electric young rookie pitchers on the ballot (possible ROY and CY Young Candidates)

Hafner is roundly considered to be the 3rd best DH in the game. He is in no way unsung.


This was my point. And in no fucking circumstance did he deserve a spot over either Thome or Papi.

Everybody knows Hafner, and they know he's got a really big bat.


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Yield05 wrote:
Guillen was a good point also.. good hitter always solid. helped my teams out this in fantasy so far.

carl crawford is another guy who comes to mind,, he is known but is way better than advertised


Crawford is indeed a stud, a rare 5 tool player.

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edzeppe wrote:
Pjten6 wrote:
Yield05 wrote:
parchy wrote:
Everybody has been saying he's under the radar since the All-Star break last year. I don't think it's true anymore.

i disagree.. he didnt make the allstar team this yr and think he was leading or in the top 3 in homers rbis and slugging at the break, still unknown if u ask me


Exactly...didn't make the All Star team this year with 3 chances: regular ballot vote (no), coach selection (no), 2nd chance fan's vote (no, and I think he finished 4th of the 5 players in that vote).


Regular Ballot vote- wouldnt win it with Ortiz on it
Coachs vote- like Ozzie isnt going to pick his DH
2nd Chance vote- 2 electric young rookie pitchers on the ballot (possible ROY and CY Young Candidates)

Hafner is roundly considered to be the 3rd best DH in the game. He is in no way unsung.


ok, so you don't like my Hafner pick...that's alright. The point of these threads is for lively discussion anyway so mission accomplished.

I do like Guillen but he really only had one stellar year in 2004 where he hit 20 HRs and had about 100 RBIs....other than that he's been pretty average and he's making $5 million per year so I wouldn't call that all that unsung either (Hafner is making less than $3 million).

Carl Crawford is a nice pick.

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While this guy wasn't an unknown I still believe few grasped the numbers he put up for an entire career....


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While this guy wasn't an unknown I still believe few grasped the numbers he put up for an entire career....


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I saw Willie hit a near 500 ft home run in spring training against the Phillies about 10 years ago. It smashed the shit out of some car in the parking lot.


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also i would have to go with holliday from the rockies... he is going tobe a great consistant player ... can we get these guys some TV time?

EDIT: maybe not unsung but def a very good hitter and 5 tool guy. Vernon wells

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Yield05 wrote:
also i would have to go with holliday from the rockies... he is going tobe a great consistant player ... can we get these guys some TV time?

EDIT: maybe not unsung but def a very good hitter and 5 tool guy. Vernon wells


I was going to mention Holliday as well....Garrett Atkins of the Rockies is right there with him.

Vernon Wells=stud.

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also i would have to go with holliday from the rockies... he is going tobe a great consistant player ... can we get these guys some TV time?

EDIT: maybe not unsung but def a very good hitter and 5 tool guy. Vernon wells


I was going to mention Holliday as well....Garrett Atkins of the Rockies is right there with him.

Vernon Wells=stud.


i was watching yankee batting practice today .. and whatevr her head said hey vernon the yankee fans want you for CF in 2 years ,, he lit up like a kid in a whore shop ..must of seen dollar signs :lol:

also while we are at it... how about sizemore?

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Gary Matthews Jr!


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parchy wrote:
Gary Matthews Jr!


maybe not as lopsided, but to me he is another beltre

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