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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:10 am 
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why is it they have abstained from covering the war in iraq on their web site?

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This is a great question, and to me, it speaks to a bigger issue in today's media environment ... I would say that the answer to this question is driven by two things:

1. The short attention span of today's news media outlets ... in their quest to be most watched or most read, they tend to focus on what's making news NOW. Remember 3 months ago when all anybody was talking about was the "immagration debate"? It was so important that Dubya himself went on TV!! Where has that gone?? It's the same answer. Another good example is Katrina. It's not like the destruction and displacement has gone away, it's just that it's not current ...
2. The Israeli - Hezbollah conflict. I think from a middle east perspective, this has taken alot of the attention off of Iraq. Right or wrong ... it just is what it is.

Anyway that's my take ...


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62 people died today in blasts throughout baghdad.

fox news had it basically third highest on the site, msnbc had it up top, and cnn had it nowhere.

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Yeah I'm not saying it's good ... but I think, in general, death in Iraq is not a new occurrence. And to me, from a day to day perspective, most major news outlets don't keep as much focus on items which are not NEW news (ie war in iraq, immigration, katrina)

I think it's a bigger problem than just Iraq ... I agree 62 ppl dying today should be up on everyone's radar ...


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If CNN covered real news, how else would we hear about Britney Spear's latest mommy misadventures?

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If fox news covered real news, how else would we hear about Britney Spear's latest mommy misadventures?


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If one wants credible news, one should avoid all 24 hour cable news channels.

sorry, c_b

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Anyone else think c_b has a CNN bias? :P

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B wrote:
If one wants credible news, one should avoid all 24 hour cable news channels.

sorry, c_b


i'm talking only the web site right now.

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oh well, by now saying that people die in Iraq is so surprising like to say the wind is blowing around the world.

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oh well, by now saying that people die in Iraq is so surprising like to say the wind is blowing around the world.


Yep, I agree with this. I don't think it's so much a political bias as it is going to the definition of news--something new. This isn't exactly new, as sad as it is.


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In regards to the Iraq war coverage, it was one of the lead stories on "American Morning" on CNN today.

As far as CNN being part of the Liberal Mainstream Media, read on....

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 28,00.html


CNN Int'l snubs Israeli civilians

Highly unbalanced report mostly ignores plight of Israeli civilians, portrays Israelis as soldiers and politicians in suits, while coverage from Lebanon features in-depth interviews with Lebanese civilians and images of children and ruins; no mention of large number of Israelis displaced from their homes in north

The anatomy of bias: A CNN International in-depth report from Israel and Lebanon unveiled the full extent of bias at work behind the global news network's coverage of the Israel – Hizbullah war.

Scant attention is paid to Israeli civilians, while a long report featuring images and interviews of Lebanese civilians followed. The report's startling lack of representation of the suffering experienced by so many Israeli civilians stood in stark contrast to the interviews and video footage taken of Lebanese children and scenes of wreckage shown from across Lebanon.

Ignoring Bombardment of Israel

The report began with an account of Haifa by a CNN female correspondent. During the report, there is a single, brief image of Israeli civilians, sitting at a café in Haifa. The picture remains on the screen for a number of seconds, before the journalist is seen being interviewed by the CNN anchor.

"Well some Arab Israelis were very upset when rockets struck their homes and three people died, and all of them were Arab Israelis, and they were complaining that they have hadn't been built bunkers like Israeli Jews in this city," said the journalist, answering a question about relations between Jews and Arabs in Haifa. She later said the answer depended on "who you asked."

The report did not mention any Israeli casualties, and no interviews with Israeli civilians were conducted.

Other than a momentary statistic appearing on the screen, there is no mention of the large number of Israelis who have become displaced from their homes in the north, and the journey home which awaits them to homes possible destroyed by Hizbullah rockets – although on the Lebanese side of the border, the report takes a long look at the return of Lebanese refugees to their homes in southern Lebanon.

There were no interviews from Israeli hospitals, and no mention made of the million Israelis who had been living in bomb shelters for almost a month. Also glaringly absent were images of destroyed homes and buildings across northern Israel.

A report then followed by CNN's Paul Hancocks, focusing exclusively on Israeli domestic politics. "The military battle for Israel's prime minister is over for the time being. The political battle has just begun. Critics claimed Olmert has gone to war hastily and ill prepared," said Hancocks, before film of Olmert's Knesset speech was shown. The report showed internal Knesset wrangling and the ejection of two Knesset members.

By the time CNN's correspondents had completed their coverage from Israel, it became clear that CNN had little interest in placing individual faces and names to the suffering on the Israeli side, let alone mentioning the extent and scope of the war damage.

Second half very different

The second half of the report, by CNN's Ben Wiederman, was dramatically different.

The report was saturated with images of Lebanese children playing in ruins, blood stains, destroyed buildings, and personal accounts of Lebanese families attempting to head back to south Lebanon.

It was introduced by CNN's anchor, who said: "Nasrallah also acknowledged the deaths and the destruction of the Lebanese homes, but he said Hizbullah would be ready to help rebuild."

"It was a morning like so many other recent mornings in Tyre. And then there was silence. The ceasefire went into effect at 8 AM local time. And with the prospect of calm, it didn't take long for many of Lebanon's refugees, estimated at more than a million, to pack their belongings, and head south towards home," Wiederman said.

"Beirut's Sinara park has become a temporary refuge. But Monday morning some decided it was to go back. To what, they weren't sure," he added.

Beginning one of a number of interviews with Lebanese civilians, the report continued: "'We're returning to our village but we're not sure if we'll be able to get there,' said this man from a village outside Tyre."

Suggesting that Israel would target Lebanese civilians heading back to Lebanon, Wiederman said: "Last week Israel warned that it would target any car south of the Litani river. The warning remains in effect. But few seem to heed it. Rather they chose to savor the thought that Hizbullah has emerged from this war in their opinion victorious."

"The 33 day conflict has left the Lebanese economy in ruins. Thousands of homes have been destroyed by Israeli land air and sea bombardment, and over a thousand Lebanese, mostly civilians, have been killed during the fighting," Wiederman continued, as images of Lebanese children and wrecked debris flashed across the screen.

Wiederman's report was then followed by an item on the struggle aid workers to get into southern Lebanon.

During earlier coverage on Sunday, CNN chose the word "resistance" to describe Hizbullah's actions in Lebanon – a term used by Hizbullah - as well as Hamas - to describe their own attacks - implicitly presuming that armed jihad organizations are 'resisting' and defending against aggression, rather than initiating it.

A succession of images followed, showing a Lebanese woman alone among ruins, followed immediately by a photograph of smiling Israeli soldiers with guns raised in the air. No context or explanations of when and where the photos were taken are provided.


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Whatever happened to that flash animation with all of the liberal conspiracies linked together? I bet LeninFlux would love that.

EDIT: Here we go.
http://discoverthenetwork.org/groupProf ... grpid=6696

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i work at fox news.

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B wrote:
Whatever happened to that flash animation with all of the liberal conspiracies linked together? I bet LeninFlux would love that.

EDIT: Here we go.
http://discoverthenetwork.org/groupProf ... grpid=6696


I don't get it - a link to a bio focusing mainly on where Eddie's interests in politics lie? What does this have to do with CNN?


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LeninFlux wrote:
B wrote:
Whatever happened to that flash animation with all of the liberal conspiracies linked together? I bet LeninFlux would love that.

EDIT: Here we go.
http://discoverthenetwork.org/groupProf ... grpid=6696


I don't get it - a link to a bio focusing mainly on where Eddie's interests in politics lie? What does this have to do with CNN?

Click on the link that says "visual maps" and see the whole vast conspiracy.

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LeninFlux wrote:
B wrote:
Whatever happened to that flash animation with all of the liberal conspiracies linked together? I bet LeninFlux would love that.

EDIT: Here we go.
http://discoverthenetwork.org/groupProf ... grpid=6696


I don't get it - a link to a bio focusing mainly on where Eddie's interests in politics lie? What does this have to do with CNN?

Click on the link that says "visual maps" and see the whole vast conspiracy.


Ok, I see now...thanks.

I see a lot of advocacy groups and individuals....I don't see what this has to do with the Liberal Mainstream Media.


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Why don't you stop reading right-wing blogs and start watching it yourself

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LeninFlux wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
LeninFlux wrote:
B wrote:
Whatever happened to that flash animation with all of the liberal conspiracies linked together? I bet LeninFlux would love that.

EDIT: Here we go.
http://discoverthenetwork.org/groupProf ... grpid=6696


I don't get it - a link to a bio focusing mainly on where Eddie's interests in politics lie? What does this have to do with CNN?

Click on the link that says "visual maps" and see the whole vast conspiracy.


Ok, I see now...thanks.

I see a lot of advocacy groups and individuals....I don't see what this has to do with the Liberal Mainstream Media.


That's our Liberal Network conspiring against you.

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