Board index » Watched from the Window, with a Red Mosquito... » Pearl Jam




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 59 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

Rate Habit
5 Stars: Fuck Yeah! 23%  23%  [ 23 ]
4 Stars: Really good rocker 27%  27%  [ 27 ]
3 Stars: Average 30%  30%  [ 30 ]
2 Stars: Bland 12%  12%  [ 12 ]
1 Star: Fuck No! 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
Total votes : 97
Author Message
 Post subject: SOTM: Never Thought You'd ...
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Stone's Bitch
 YIM  Profile

Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:48 pm
Posts: 763
Gender: Female
Habit

Seen it happen to a couple of friends
Seen it happen and the message it sends
Taken up for what's an obvious fault
Just to see what all the fuss is about

It's not your way...not your way
It's not your way

Another habit says it's in love with you
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
It's not your way...not your way
It's not your way

Never thought you'd... habit
Never thought you'd... habit
Never thought you'd... habit
I never thought you, never thought you...
Never thought you'd... habit
Never thought you'd... habit
Never thought you'd... habit
I never thought you, never never thought you..
Never thought you'd... habit
Never thought you'd... habit
Never thought you'd... habit
Speaking as a child of the nineties...
Never thought you'd... habit
Never thought you'd... habit
Never thought you'd... habit
I never thought you, never thought you
Never thought you'd... habit
Never thought you'd... habit
Never thought you'd... habit
I never thought you, never never thought you...
Never... never me, never you... never me...







Habit by Pearl Jam off the No Code album.

I think this song and the music that backs it has for it's major thrust the frustration that is accompanied with watching someone you know and/or love go through addiction. The music itself is hard driving and pounds home the power and intensity behind the message of the lyrics. I think all, if not most of us, have seen the way addiction can rip away at the fabric of a person's real self.

In this song Ed talks about seeing addiction happen to some of his friends. He also talks about the message it sends. I wonder what message exactly he's talking about? Is it the message that people who are addicted have lost control of their lives or is it the message that people who are addicted tend to try to pull others down with them? Or it could be something else. It makes me wonder. The rest of the first verse talks about the fact that addiction is obviously a fault, and that people will put their very lives in danger just to experience something new, or to emulate someone they admire who is addicted as well.

During the chorus we hear what others around the addicted person are saying "It's not your way." We hear the others pleading with them that there has to be a better way to live life other than being a slave to a substance. It's almost as if the song is hoping that if the addicted person hears the "It's not your way" enough they will take a new look at what they are doing.

I think this song is so powerful to me because it tackles a subject that many people just don't want to face. It's difficult to broach the subject with someone who is addicted. It's hard to step up to them and say, that you care and that you don't want to see them destroy their lives. I applaud this song in that it does this without sounding preachy.

In the second verse Ed lets the habit itself have a voice and we hear about being in love and that it's been waiting a long time to take hold. He continues, calling it an "unwanted friend" where the addicted person thinks it's a friend, but those who can see the situation outside know it's as unwanted as the final result could be.

My favorite line of the song is "I'm so happy with my righteous self." I love the irony in this line, in that the writer is saying he may have had his own battle with the monster, but he found a way out, and though he might now be what is considered okay or good, he's been there and he knows the battle is enormously difficult to overcome.

The rest of the song declares how the writer himself is in denial to a point that he can't believe this person has allowed a habit to take over their lives. It's also sort of a hope put into words that for the future he forsees that the habit will be beaten.

The line "speaking as a child of the nineties" I find to be true in that rock and roll and heavy drugs seemed to be synonymous during that decade. Not to say the sixties didn't see their fair share of deaths of great musicians because of hard drugs, but the nineties had their moment too.

Overall I really like this song a lot because of the depth of the message and the way the music jerks you awake so you can take it all in.




Previous Songs of the Moment
In My Tree
Red Mosquito
Porch
I Got Id
Release
Do The Evolution
Breath
Corduroy
Elderly Woman...
Leash
Hail Hail
Grievance
Love Boat Captain
Even Flow
Black Red Yellow
In Hiding
Can't Keep
Indifference
Insignificance
Whipping
Black
Smile
Push Me Pull Me
Rats
God's Dice
All or None
Yellow Ledbetter
Last Exit
Who You Are
Rearview Mirror
Hold On
Present Tense
Light Years
Alive
Brain of J
Thumbing My Way
Hard to Imagine
Tremor Christ
Rival
Animal
Lukin
You Are
betterman
Given to Fly
Once
Low Light
Parting Ways
Off He Goes
Go
get right
World Wide Suicide
Angel
MFC
Long Road
Why Go
Nothingman
Save You
Of A Girl

_________________
About Me: http://www.myspace.com/gvntofly
Audio List: http://db.etree.org/tradingmagic
DVD List: http://db.etree.org/inthepjethers


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Stone's Bitch
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:25 am
Posts: 17123
Location: Maspeth, NY
Gender: Male
5 stars, no doubt. One of my top 3 off No Code.

_________________
Gotta say it now.... better loud than too late.


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Force of Nature
 Profile

Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:53 am
Posts: 467
Location: Ontario, Canada
No way this is a 5 star song. The only thing that makes it a good song if Jeffs bass at the end.

2.5 stars.


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Johnny Guitar
 Profile

Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:49 pm
Posts: 286
Location: Costa Rica
Habit and Mankind are the two songs from No Code I skip most times.

_________________
I will hold the candle till it burns up my arm

WPB 06/11/08 - Tampa 06/12/08 - Columbia 06/16/08 - V. Beach 06/17/08


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Supersonic
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:09 pm
Posts: 10839
Location: metro west, mass
Gender: Male
Aside from the lyrics, the music from this song contains more energy than 90% of Pearl Jam's catalog.

This song is straight up in your fuckin face rock and roll.

-Sunny

_________________
"There are two ways to enslave and conquer a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt." -John Adams


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Team Binaural
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Wed May 24, 2006 5:23 pm
Posts: 12793
Location: Tours, FR
Gender: Male
5 stars - Fuck yeah !

_________________
There has never been a silence like this before


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:12 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Global Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:02 am
Posts: 44183
Location: New York
Gender: Male
Great write up Jen. I have nothing to add there

habit has an awesome riff and incredible energy, and the ragged edge to eddie's voice works well for the song. Strong lyrics in the verses and a great breakdown at the end.

But it is still just a three star song for me. It's the chorus that does it. Once or twice was fine, but the fact that half the song is eddie singing 'never thought you'd habit', which is not that great a lyric, kinda kills it for me. I would like more variety at the end, or, failing that, just cut the chorus down a bit and make the song a two minute scorcher.

So it ends up being 3 starts for me. There is no song on No Code have more unrealized potential for me than this one, so much potential, with a little tweaking, to be great.

_________________
"Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference."--FDR

The perfect gift for certain occasions


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Stone's Bitch
 Profile

Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:41 am
Posts: 216
Location: Emoth Heaven
I came into this thread, just to see what all the fuss is about. :shock:

_________________
oh, stripped and sold, mom ... auctioned4arm ... and whiskers in the sink ... truants move on ... cannot stay long ... some die just to live ............................................................ Immortality


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Team Binaural
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Wed May 24, 2006 5:23 pm
Posts: 12793
Location: Tours, FR
Gender: Male
auctioned4arm wrote:
I came into this thread, just to see what all the fuss is about. :shock:


Come on, it's not your way

_________________
There has never been a silence like this before


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Global Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:02 am
Posts: 44183
Location: New York
Gender: Male
auctioned4arm wrote:
I came into this thread, just to see what all the fuss is about. :shock:


:lol:

_________________
"Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference."--FDR

The perfect gift for certain occasions


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Supersonic
 Profile

Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:07 pm
Posts: 12393
I dig this song. If No Code is a battle between two conflicting perspectives...the adrenalized anger of idealism (built partially on fear, by the way) and the peaceful calm of finding your small place and realizing you can't save the world....then Habit is the sonic personification of the former. I think it's a bit underwritten, and I wish the end didn't fade so soon, so it's a 3 star song for me.


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Former PJ Drummer
 Profile

Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:00 pm
Posts: 19826
Location: Alone in a corridor
it's a really good rocker.


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Stone's Bitch
 Profile

Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:33 am
Posts: 35357
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Gender: Male
underrated song on No Code, really rocks your face off, flat-out. 4 stars.

_________________
Winner, RM all-time NBA tourney. :D

Winner, 2008 US Pearl Jam fantasy league. :D

Everton FC: 3-1-5
Anaheim Webbed D's: 5-6-2
USC Football: 7-2
Denver Broncos: 3-5


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar
losing relevance
 Profile

Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:39 pm
Posts: 9251
Location: Somewhere Expansive
Gender: Male
The soloing at the end of this song... :shock:


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Needs to start paying for bandwidth
 Profile

Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:20 am
Posts: 31173
Speaking as a child of the nineties... ... 3stars, average. the music has much potential, but the lyrics are kind of ahh.....i don't know, too repetitive at the end a la Evacuation, which is a great song but the end ruins it completely..


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Cameron's Stallion
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:53 am
Posts: 6704
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Gender: Male
if only all of no code were as good as this song and present tense....

_________________
Harmless wrote:
'Isn't this weird? We're looking down on PJ's music, only.... that's not PJ's music. Isn't that weird?'

13/11/06 Melbourne, 20/11/09 Melbourne


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Got Some
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:20 am
Posts: 2224
Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
the bit where the band kicks in again at the end is fucking insane

5 stars, mainly because of what its up against on the album

_________________
porchball wrote:
Fishbob is the fucking man.

denverapolis wrote:
fishbob is the motherfucking man


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Unthought Known
 Profile

Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:28 am
Posts: 6085
Location: At home among the gum trees.
Gender: Male
Awesome song i really hope they play it again

_________________
Trouble, Oh trouble can't you see, You have made me a wreck, Now won't you leave me in my misery


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:05 am 
Offline
User avatar
Founding Bitch
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:53 pm
Posts: 8066
Location: Las Vegas via Rockford (Roscoe), IL
Gender: Female
I gave Habit one star and that is being generous. There is only one PJ song that I like less than this one and it is Leash.

_________________
Frank :peace:
Kevin :peace:

At night I drink myself to sleep and pretend
I don't care that you're not here with me
Cause it's so much easier to handle
all my problems if I'm too far out to sea


Top
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:09 am 
Offline
User avatar
Supersonic
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:09 pm
Posts: 10839
Location: metro west, mass
Gender: Male
Geez! You give a song 3 stars just because the chorus is repetitive? That's what makes a song catchy.

I can't wait to hear what y'all think of "U". :P

-Sunny

_________________
"There are two ways to enslave and conquer a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt." -John Adams


Top
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 59 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

Board index » Watched from the Window, with a Red Mosquito... » Pearl Jam


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
It is currently Wed Nov 05, 2025 7:59 pm