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Has anyone else ever seen this? It's a little campy, but the ideas behind it are pretty mind-boggling. Now this is a horror movie that should be remade; done correctly, it could potentially be great.
But instead we get shitty ass remakes of classics like The Omen, The Wicker Man and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
Has anyone else ever seen this? It's a little campy, but the ideas behind it are pretty mind-boggling. Now this is a horror movie that should be remade; done correctly, it could potentially be great.
But instead we get shitty ass remakes of classics like The Omen, The Wicker Man and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
I haven't seen this, but it's been alternating around the top 20 of my Netflix queue for a long time. Cronenberg is a good director, so I find the idea of a remake a little strange. His films are so cerebral, it seems like it'd be a shame to remake it and focus on gimmicky horror elements.
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Sadly, I haven't seen it either. There's a used copy of it going pretty cheap that I've been meaning to pick up though.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
Has anyone else ever seen this? It's a little campy, but the ideas behind it are pretty mind-boggling. Now this is a horror movie that should be remade; done correctly, it could potentially be great.
But instead we get shitty ass remakes of classics like The Omen, The Wicker Man and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
I haven't seen this, but it's been alternating around the top 20 of my Netflix queue for a long time. Cronenberg is a good director, so I find the idea of a remake a little strange. His films are so cerebral, it seems like it'd be a shame to remake it and focus on gimmicky horror elements.
You'd have to see it to understand exactly what I mean (though we'd probably just end up disagreeing anyway -- that's what we do best ). The horror elements in the original are gimmicky; not only that, there is a psychological horror theme in that one that is touched on, but if fully explored, could really pack a punch. This thread will probably be buried soon; bump it when you see the movie and we can discuss it further.
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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
Napoleon wrote:
I saw it some months ago, it was pretty good the way it was. I wouldn't want it remade.
You don't think it could be improved upon or that it was somewhat cheesy?
It could, as I agree that it wasn't the least bit scary, but it will seem like less of a failure if you look at it as just a psychological thriller. I also have an instinctual mistrust of any horror remake these days that might contribute to this stance.
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All right, I watched it last night. Believe it or not, Frank, I agree with you. A remake, in the right hands, could be very good. Again, this is Cronenberg being very cerebral as always, so it'd be easy for a remake to forget all of the psychological qualities and focus on freaky little dwarfs that kill (which was totally lifted from Don't Look Now, by the way), but, as I said, in the right hands, there are some major improvements that could be made.
It had a fascinating story, but the film left a lot to be desired visually, which is typical of early Cronenberg. Most of the dialogue and acting was laughable, as well.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
All right, I watched it last night. Believe it or not, Frank, I agree with you. A remake, in the right hands, could be very good. Again, this is Cronenberg being very cerebral as always, so it'd be easy for a remake to forget all of the psychological qualities and focus on freaky little dwarfs that kill (which was totally lifted from Don't Look Now, by the way), but, as I said, in the right hands, there are some major improvements that could be made.
It had a fascinating story, but the film left a lot to be desired visually, which is typical of early Cronenberg. Most of the dialogue and acting was laughable, as well.
We agree on a movie?
In all seriousness, I think the themes of this movie are just fascinating, the main one being physical manifestations of your emotions. That concept alone has so much potential...this is why this film let me down. I like Cronenberg's work, but this is a b-movie at best, yet one that could be remade and turned into something really good, IMO.
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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
All right, I watched it last night. Believe it or not, Frank, I agree with you. A remake, in the right hands, could be very good. Again, this is Cronenberg being very cerebral as always, so it'd be easy for a remake to forget all of the psychological qualities and focus on freaky little dwarfs that kill (which was totally lifted from Don't Look Now, by the way), but, as I said, in the right hands, there are some major improvements that could be made.
It had a fascinating story, but the film left a lot to be desired visually, which is typical of early Cronenberg. Most of the dialogue and acting was laughable, as well.
We agree on a movie?
In all seriousness, I think the themes of this movie are just fascinating, the main one being physical manifestations of your emotions. That concept alone has so much potential...this is why this film let me down. I like Cronenberg's work, but this is a b-movie at best, yet one that could be remade and turned into something really good, IMO.
Have you seen any other early Cronenberg? Scanners and Videodrome feature very similar themes concerning physical transformations due to psychological happenings. I think Videodrome is executed much better than The Brood.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
All right, I watched it last night. Believe it or not, Frank, I agree with you. A remake, in the right hands, could be very good. Again, this is Cronenberg being very cerebral as always, so it'd be easy for a remake to forget all of the psychological qualities and focus on freaky little dwarfs that kill (which was totally lifted from Don't Look Now, by the way), but, as I said, in the right hands, there are some major improvements that could be made.
It had a fascinating story, but the film left a lot to be desired visually, which is typical of early Cronenberg. Most of the dialogue and acting was laughable, as well.
We agree on a movie?
In all seriousness, I think the themes of this movie are just fascinating, the main one being physical manifestations of your emotions. That concept alone has so much potential...this is why this film let me down. I like Cronenberg's work, but this is a b-movie at best, yet one that could be remade and turned into something really good, IMO.
Have you seen any other early Cronenberg? Scanners and Videodrome feature very similar themes concerning physical transformations due to psychological happenings. I think Videodrome is executed much better than The Brood.
Videodrome is executed a lot better than most movies.
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Mercury wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
All right, I watched it last night. Believe it or not, Frank, I agree with you. A remake, in the right hands, could be very good. Again, this is Cronenberg being very cerebral as always, so it'd be easy for a remake to forget all of the psychological qualities and focus on freaky little dwarfs that kill (which was totally lifted from Don't Look Now, by the way), but, as I said, in the right hands, there are some major improvements that could be made.
It had a fascinating story, but the film left a lot to be desired visually, which is typical of early Cronenberg. Most of the dialogue and acting was laughable, as well.
We agree on a movie?
In all seriousness, I think the themes of this movie are just fascinating, the main one being physical manifestations of your emotions. That concept alone has so much potential...this is why this film let me down. I like Cronenberg's work, but this is a b-movie at best, yet one that could be remade and turned into something really good, IMO.
Have you seen any other early Cronenberg? Scanners and Videodrome feature very similar themes concerning physical transformations due to psychological happenings. I think Videodrome is executed much better than The Brood.
Videodrome is executed a lot better than most movies.
Sort of. It stills leaves quite a bit to be desired visually, and there is some bad dialogue here and there.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Have you seen any other early Cronenberg? Scanners and Videodrome feature very similar themes concerning physical transformations due to psychological happenings. I think Videodrome is executed much better than The Brood.
I haven't seen either of those. I'll have to rent them so I can compare them to The Brood.
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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
Has anyone else ever seen this? It's a little campy, but the ideas behind it are pretty mind-boggling. Now this is a horror movie that should be remade; done correctly, it could potentially be great.
But instead we get shitty ass remakes of classics like The Omen, The Wicker Man and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
yep, and that movie scared the crap outa me when i was a kid. isn't it from the 70's or something? very creepy.
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). The horror elements in the original are gimmicky; not only that, there is a psychological horror theme in that one that is touched on, but if fully explored, could really pack a punch. This thread will probably be buried soon; bump it when you see the movie and we can discuss it further.
