Post subject: Military wants to use microwave weapons on American citizens
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:19 pm
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i will let the Generals words speak for itself about what our leaders think about us... they think we are guinea pigs to test their weapons? because our media wont care? we fucking paid for them?
Official Touts Nonlethal Weapons for Use
By Lolita C. Baldor
The Associated Press
Tuesday 12 September 2006
Air Force official says nonlethal weapons should be used on people in crowd-control situations.
Washington - Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.
Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions in the international community over any possible safety concerns, said Secretary Michael Wynne.
"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne. "(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."
The Air Force has funded research into nonlethal weapons, but he said the service isn't likely to spend more money on development until injury issues are reviewed by medical experts and resolved.
Nonlethal weapons generally can weaken people if they are hit with the beam. Some of the weapons can emit short, intense energy pulses that also can be effective in disabling some electronic devices.
On another subject, Wynne said he expects to pick a new contractor for the next generation aerial refueling tanking by next summer. He said a draft request for bids will be put out next month, and there are two qualified bidders: The Boeing Co. and a team of Northrop Grumman Corp. and European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co., the majority owner of European jet maker Airbus SAS.
The contract is expected to be worth at least $20 billion.
Chicago-based Boeing lost the tanker deal in 2004 amid revelations that it had hired a top Air Force acquisitions official who had given the company preferential treatment.
Wynne also said the Air Force, which is already chopping 40,000 active duty, civilian and reserves jobs, is now struggling to find new ways to slash about $1.8 billion from its budget to cover costs from the latest round of base closings.
He said he can't cut more people, and it would not be wise to take funding from military programs that are needed to protect the country. But, he said he also encounters resistance when he tries to save money on operations and maintenance by retiring aging aircraft.
"We're finding out that those are, unfortunately, prized possessions of some congressional districts," said Wynne, adding that the Air Force will have to "take some appetite suppressant pills," he said. He said he has asked employees to look for efficiencies in their offices.
The base closings initially were expected to create savings by reducing Air Force infrastructure by 24 percent.
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Post subject: Re: Military wants to use microwave weapons on American citi
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:22 pm
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my2hands wrote:
Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield
No problem. I'll just bring along some Hot Pockets to the next riot I attend, and I wont have to worry about breaking for lunch.
Post subject: Re: Military wants to use microwave weapons on American citi
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:26 pm
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Buggy wrote:
my2hands wrote:
Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield
No problem. I'll just bring along some Hot Pockets to the next riot I attend, and I wont have to worry about breaking for lunch.
I recommend some breakfast sausage links as well ...
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Post subject: Re: Military wants to use microwave weapons on American citi
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:20 pm
Force of Nature
Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:52 pm Posts: 374
Buggy wrote:
my2hands wrote:
Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield
No problem. I'll just bring along some Hot Pockets to the next riot I attend, and I wont have to worry about breaking for lunch.
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i agree with the original poster that this is just a little scary...you guys are joking (and some are funny) but what happens if there is a rigged election (imagine that) and the people flood the streets similar to the Ukraine? guess who is getting microwaved? you guessed it, me and you...
they would have used this against civil rights deomstrations just like they used guns, clubs, dogs, and hoses
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Peeps wrote:
i have no problem with this. the general is right, if we wont use it on our own people, what right do we to use it on others
Did you miss an arrow here?
It's scary to think that this is the mentallity of our military. And if they are admitting to this, what are they possibily be testing on Americans without saying anything.
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i have no problem with this. the general is right, if we wont use it on our own people, what right do we to use it on others
Did you miss an arrow here?
It's scary to think that this is the mentallity of our military. And if they are admitting to this, what are they possibily be testing on Americans without saying anything.
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Peeps wrote:
ranting in e-minor wrote:
Peeps wrote:
i have no problem with this. the general is right, if we wont use it on our own people, what right do we to use it on others
Did you miss an arrow here?
It's scary to think that this is the mentallity of our military. And if they are admitting to this, what are they possibily be testing on Americans without saying anything.
the world is a big scary place...trust me
I agree, but what does that have to do with the gov't basically running human trials of a microwave weapon on people?
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I dont think its worse than pepper spray...
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