Joined: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:54 am Posts: 69 Location: Fresno (Clovis) California Gender: Male
Life Wasted has completely vanished from radio here in the Bay Area. I haven't heard any solid announcements as to when Gone might get its shot???
If Gone came and went without so much as a spin here in the Bay (the Yay as we call it) then hurry the F up and get Severed or Marker in there w/ a Comeback B-side!!!!
+ an unkonwn b-side please.... but, at least give those 3 songs a chance to fly.
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Singles don't really do anything. Anyone that thinks releasing anymore singles will suddenly make music listeners around the world fall in love with the band and buy the album is delusional. There isn't going to be any significant increase in sales.
Joined: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:54 am Posts: 69 Location: Fresno (Clovis) California Gender: Male
who gives a flip about the sales? I just want to turn on the radio and hear some PJ mixed in with the Chilis, Foos, White Stripes, Recontuers, Killers, Angels and Airwaves, etc... that seem to rule the radio right now.
My local radio station hasn't played it yet. They have an all-request lunch hour and I've requested it everyday for the last 2 weeks. Yesterday when I called the dj told me that his boss won't let him play it, even though it's a damn good song. He said maybe if he gets a lot more requests she'll HAVE to let him play it. So maybe if we all send him an e-mail?:
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Oversize wrote:
who gives a flip about the sales? I just want to turn on the radio and hear some PJ mixed in with the Chilis, Foos, White Stripes, Recontuers, Killers, Angels and Airwaves, etc... that seem to rule the radio right now.
Who cares about sales? Maybe the radio stations. The songs aren't going to get played because it's not what most people want to hear.
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tryinmorning wrote:
Oversize wrote:
who gives a flip about the sales? I just want to turn on the radio and hear some PJ mixed in with the Chilis, Foos, White Stripes, Recontuers, Killers, Angels and Airwaves, etc... that seem to rule the radio right now.
Who cares about sales? Maybe the radio stations. The songs aren't going to get played because it's not what most people want to hear.
like listener interest controls what radio stations play?
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stip wrote:
tryinmorning wrote:
Oversize wrote:
who gives a flip about the sales? I just want to turn on the radio and hear some PJ mixed in with the Chilis, Foos, White Stripes, Recontuers, Killers, Angels and Airwaves, etc... that seem to rule the radio right now.
Who cares about sales? Maybe the radio stations. The songs aren't going to get played because it's not what most people want to hear.
like listener interest controls what radio stations play?
Radio stations play the more popular music. Of course they can't gear it towards what listeners want to hear, there is too much conflict in what each person wants to hear. If an album sells five million copies, chances are you will hear songs off that more than songs off an album that sells 700,000.
Unfortunately it appears Pearl Jam are now dead to radio. I guess this comes as a consequence of the lengthy delays between albums, their reluctance towards the media, and by the media labelling them in the 90's grunge era. I personally think it is a load of shit that mainstream radio is making this decision - because the latest album and in particular 'Gone' is worthy of airplay. I still believe it is the record companies that dictate what radio stations play more so than ever before.
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Oversize wrote:
Life Wasted has completely vanished from radio here in the Bay Area. I haven't heard any solid announcements as to when Gone might get its shot???
If Gone came and went without so much as a spin here in the Bay (the Yay as we call it) then hurry the F up and get Severed or Marker in there w/ a Comeback B-side!!!!
+ an unkonwn b-side please.... but, at least give those 3 songs a chance to fly.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:09 am Posts: 2482 Location: Averill Park, NY
armstrsj wrote:
Unfortunately it appears Pearl Jam are now dead to radio. I guess this comes as a consequence of the lengthy delays between albums, their reluctance towards the media, and by the media labelling them in the 90's grunge era. I personally think it is a load of shit that mainstream radio is making this decision - because the latest album and in particular 'Gone' is worthy of airplay. I still believe it is the record companies that dictate what radio stations play more so than ever before.
Don't worry. Radio will hype up the first single on the next album as soon as they get their hands on it. They did it with WWS and they did it with I Am Mine (at least in my area)
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:43 am Posts: 88 Location: Basin City
go to Sirius. the future of broadcasting.
They play WWS, Life Wasted & Unemployable like it's going out of style, mix in a bunch of older stuff (why go, deep, corduroy...) and have been playing comatose & gone here and there.
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Just Justin wrote:
armstrsj wrote:
Unfortunately it appears Pearl Jam are now dead to radio. I guess this comes as a consequence of the lengthy delays between albums, their reluctance towards the media, and by the media labelling them in the 90's grunge era. I personally think it is a load of shit that mainstream radio is making this decision - because the latest album and in particular 'Gone' is worthy of airplay. I still believe it is the record companies that dictate what radio stations play more so than ever before.
Don't worry. Radio will hype up the first single on the next album as soon as they get their hands on it. They did it with WWS and they did it with I Am Mine (at least in my area)
Same here -- the rock stations in Philly played the shit out of Worldwide Suicide. You could literally hear it every hour between 2 stations.
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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
Just Justin wrote:
armstrsj wrote:
Unfortunately it appears Pearl Jam are now dead to radio. I guess this comes as a consequence of the lengthy delays between albums, their reluctance towards the media, and by the media labelling them in the 90's grunge era. I personally think it is a load of shit that mainstream radio is making this decision - because the latest album and in particular 'Gone' is worthy of airplay. I still believe it is the record companies that dictate what radio stations play more so than ever before.
Don't worry. Radio will hype up the first single on the next album as soon as they get their hands on it. They did it with WWS and they did it with I Am Mine (at least in my area)
Same here -- the rock stations in Philly played the shit out of Worldwide Suicide. You could literally hear it every hour between 2 stations.
Ok, heres my opinion. The album "pearl jam" really isn't as good as the band led us to believe it would be, and most fans refuse to admit it. Gone, Comeback, etc are all slightly above average songs. Yeah, if your a die hard, you are most likely going to love all the new songs... but not the rest of America. I think WWS took off because the diehard fanbase went nuts for new PJ, as they always do. If the songs were better, or either more radio friendly, then you would hear them on the radio. Now look at which of their songs do get play... alive, black, even flow, jeremy, betterman, daughter, and last kiss. These are songs that are universally liked, therefore radio plays them.
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:54 pm Posts: 12287 Location: Manguetown Gender: Male
I dont undestand this "f#$k"
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Happy When I'm Dying wrote:
Ok, heres my opinion. The album "pearl jam" really isn't as good as the band led us to believe it would be, and most fans refuse to admit it. Gone, Comeback, etc are all slightly above average songs. Yeah, if your a die hard, you are most likely going to love all the new songs... but not the rest of America. I think WWS took off because the diehard fanbase went nuts for new PJ, as they always do. If the songs were better, or either more radio friendly, then you would hear them on the radio. Now look at which of their songs do get play... alive, black, even flow, jeremy, betterman, daughter, and last kiss. These are songs that are universally liked, therefore radio plays them.
life wasted did well, and WWS did much better than any new PJ song since given to fly, so more was going on there than just an excited fan base
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tryinmorning wrote:
stip wrote:
tryinmorning wrote:
Oversize wrote:
who gives a flip about the sales? I just want to turn on the radio and hear some PJ mixed in with the Chilis, Foos, White Stripes, Recontuers, Killers, Angels and Airwaves, etc... that seem to rule the radio right now.
Who cares about sales? Maybe the radio stations. The songs aren't going to get played because it's not what most people want to hear.
like listener interest controls what radio stations play?
Radio stations play the more popular music. Of course they can't gear it towards what listeners want to hear, there is too much conflict in what each person wants to hear. If an album sells five million copies, chances are you will hear songs off that more than songs off an album that sells 700,000.
radio stations play what the record industry pretty much tells them to play. Not exclusively, but hits are largley manufactured.
_________________ "Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference."--FDR
Ok, heres my opinion. The album "pearl jam" really isn't as good as the band led us to believe it would be, and most fans refuse to admit it. Gone, Comeback, etc are all slightly above average songs. Yeah, if your a die hard, you are most likely going to love all the new songs... but not the rest of America. I think WWS took off because the diehard fanbase went nuts for new PJ, as they always do. If the songs were better, or either more radio friendly, then you would hear them on the radio. Now look at which of their songs do get play... alive, black, even flow, jeremy, betterman, daughter, and last kiss. These are songs that are universally liked, therefore radio plays them.
That is your opinion....'slightly above average'? I think you are dictated what PJ album is good or not good based on success of sales my friend. This album is one of their best and its my personal favourite.....its taken over Yield for that honour.
As for you comment about 'universally liked'....well, you got it backwards...they were universally liked mostly because radio got behind the singles. That doesn't mean the songs are necessarily better. The new album has/is doing just fine. When its all said and done, they will have sold over 700,000 copies. That isn't too shabby.
I personally feel that if Come Back was released, it would have had universal appeal, but it reallly doesn't matter now.
But I get EEI on FM now cause my ride to and from work flirts with RI.
Other than that radio sucks. If i do hear a band I like, it's the same ole shit they've been playin for years. Plus CDs sound so much better and they're commercial free.
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