What do you guys think?

President in '08?

Who b dat?

Republican lite.

--PunkDavid

you like him?

i think i would vote for him. i'd vote for any moderate, really.

so was clinton.

I don't think that Clinton was good for the Democratic Party in the long run. He was successful because of his personna. His policies and political philosophy have left the Democratic party standing for nothing except against the Republicans.

Evan Bayh is a Democrat as much as Lincoln Chaffe is a Republican, because their famous fathers were, and that is all. I'd vote for John McCain over Evan Bayh, no shit.

--PunkDavid

*pouts* don't talk that way about my boyfriend.

I guess instead of a gross ideological generalization I'd like to know just what Bayh is wrong about.

How old is this person?

I'm not going to make judgments on right and wrong, I just don't think the Democrats should be looking to nominate a moderate as their candidate. Ironically, I think that the more the Democrats move towards the center, the more they marginalize themselves as a party. People didn't reject Kerry because he was too liberal, they rejected him because they couldn't figure out what he stood for. I can't tell you how many people I've heard say that they don't necessarily agree with Bush on issues, but at least they know where he stands. That's what the Democrats need. Not an arch-liberal, but a candidate who knows where he stands and can articulate it to the public. People will respect a candidate who isn't afraid to be unpopular on a couple of issues. It's better than disingenuously trying to appeal to all people.

Check out this site for a lot of good tangible information about where different politicians stand on a variety of issues.
http://www.issues2000.org/default.htm

Here's a couple of interesting charts from there:

Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN)


Sen. Lincoln Chaffe (R-RI)


Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY)


Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)


You want to see what we should be shooting for? Here are North Dakota's two Democratic Senators. North Dakota voted 63% for Bush in 2004.

Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND)


Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND)


--PunkDavid

Sorry, but you can't be president with a name like Byron Dorgan. Maybe a Star Trek character or a senator, but not president.

Sen. Evan Bayh Asks Terre Haute Demonstrator, "What Do You People Want From Me?"

by Cathy McGuire

26 Oct 2002

Three demonstrators from the Terre Haute Stop War on Iraq protested in front of the Holiday Inn where the Vigo County Democrats held a fundraiser tonight, the eve of the national march in Washington, D.C. After the demonstration the one male demonstrator unexpectedly met Sen. Bayh.

The special guest tonight at the Vigo Co., Indiana Democratic fundraiser was Sen. Evan Bayh. Three members of the Terre Haute Stop War on Iraq went down to the Holiday Inn with their signs and stood next to the driveway to the hotel. They saw the senator arrive and he did not acknowledge them. Unknown to them until later, he and his aides apparently stayed in his car in the parking lot watching the demonstrators until after the cocktail hour was over. Apparently, the senator did not want to be seen in public at the cocktail part of the event.

The demonstrators had stayed on a little past the cocktail hour thinking the press would come out and talk to them. When it became obvious by 7:20 p.m. past the starting time of the dinner that they were not going to interview them, they decided to break up. Bryan Smith decided to go into the side entrance of the hotel to find a restroom. Bayh and one of his aides were following him.

Bayh initiated the conversation with "What do you people want from me?" Smith explained that millions of people are opposed to this war and that he thought Bayh is out of touch with the people on this. Bayh replied to the effect that he didn't want war either but that he felt that Saddam Hussein needed to be threatened seriously in order for there to be peace.

Of the five TV stations covering the event, two of them from Indianapolis, only the reporter from Terre Haute's WTHI Channel 10 interviewed Smith after he approached her after she had interviewed Bayh. He asked her shouldn't the anti-war people be given equal time? She agreed and did a 10 minute interview with him. Hopefully it will run at 11 p.m. and will help bring out more demonstrators to tomorrow's local solidarity demonstration.

http://www.ucimc.org/newswire/display/8113/index.php

Lets put another Hoosier in the White House.

Ok, what do you disagree with him on?


I've gotta say your statements don't match. Does ideology matter or doesn't it?

Just because Bayh is a moderate that means he can't have strong stands, or that people won't know how he feels about certain issues? Are all moderates wishy washy?

Basically, what about Evan Bayh tells you he doesn't "know where he stands" or that he can't "articulate it to the public?"