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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:08 pm 
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Is there a difference between the two, and if so, what is it.

We bought salsa at Trader Joe's and one says it is "Organic" the other says "All Natural". Is there any difference... not that it matters too much because both are great. Just wondering is all.

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Organic is a term regulated by the government. "All Natural" means....absolutely nothing,


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I think organic means that it was grown without using pesticides or genetic altering.

All natural probably means that no chemicals/additives/preservatives were used.


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MF wrote:
All natural probably means that no chemicals/additives/preservatives were used.


Dont be fooled by it saying "All Natural". There is no restriction on anyone using it. They could put "All Natural" on twinkies, pepsi and spam.


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Buggy wrote:
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All natural probably means that no chemicals/additives/preservatives were used.


Dont be fooled by it saying "All Natural". There is no restriction on anyone using it. They could put "All Natural" on twinkies, pepsi and spam.


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Does natural mean organic?

No. Natural and organic are not interchangeable. Other truthful claims, such as free-range, hormone-free, and natural, can still appear on food labels. However, don't confuse these terms with "organic." Only food labeled "organic" has been certified as meeting USDA organic standards.



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Buggy wrote:
Organic is a term regulated by the government. "All Natural" means....absolutely nothing,



really? i wouldnt doubt it... i try to be an educated consumer, especially when it comes to food now a days... i would still bet that there is some resrtiction on labelin gyour food "all-natural" if it really wasnt... but it wouldnt shock me if that was so...kind like saying "salt-free"...you cant label it sodium free if it has it, right?

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really? i wouldnt doubt it... i try to be an educated consumer, especially when it comes to food now a days... i would still bet that there is some resrtiction on labelin gyour food "all-natural" if it really wasnt...


Nope. "All Natural" is a completely unregulated and undefined term. Anyone could use it for anything. Heck, I could sell lead paint and call it "All Natural".

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Technically, if somethings organic, its made from carbon.

Hence, all food (except cheese whiz) is organic.

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i bought a pair of organic socks last week. i still don;t understand it. :?

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jeremyvedder wrote:
Technically, if somethings organic, its made from carbon.

Hence, all food (except cheese whiz) is organic.


There is the technical term, and then there is the consumer term regulated by the USDA ;)

This part is interesting to note:

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In the US, federal organic legislation defines three levels of organics. Products made entirely with certified organic ingredients and methods can be labelled "100% organic". Products with 95% organic ingredients can use the word "organic". Both may also display the USDA organic seal. A third category, containing a minimum of 70% organic ingredients, can be labelled "made with organic ingredients". In addition, products may also display the logo of the certification body that approved them. Products made with less than 70% organic ingredients can not advertise this information to consumers and can only mention this fact in the product's ingredient statement. Similar percentages and labels apply in the EU.


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really? i wouldnt doubt it... i try to be an educated consumer, especially when it comes to food now a days... i would still bet that there is some resrtiction on labelin gyour food "all-natural" if it really wasnt...


Nope. "All Natural" is a completely unregulated and undefined term. Anyone could use it for anything. Heck, I could sell lead paint and call it "All Natural".

http://www.newstarget.com/005778.html



thanks, that was a great article

it's pretty sad that we have poisoned our own food supply, enviromentaly and in preparation and preservation

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only buggy would thrive in a thread like this. What a loser. :wink:

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Both terms are loaded. They are bullshit. Mercury is natural. Bear shit is all natural. A pile of dead mosquitos is all natural. All are bad for you.


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Good luck finding crops that haven't been crossed with GM versions (intentionally or not).

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broken iris wrote:
Good luck finding crops that haven't been crossed with GM versions (intentionally or not).


Although it's not impossible that there may be contamination here an there, GMO's are not allowed in the USDA Organic label standard, and people work hard to keep them out.


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Obviously nobody clicked on the link I provided. It answered 100% of the questions/accusations listed after my initial post.

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Wow. A GD thread stayed serious long enough to be transferred into N&D. Impressive.

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Wow. A GD thread stayed serious long enough to be transferred into N&D. Impressive.


What's even funnier is that this is the second time an organic foods topic has been moved from GD to N&D. Bammer wasn't too pleased with that move. ;)

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ranting in e-minor wrote:
Is there a difference between the two, and if so, what is it.

We bought salsa at Trader Joe's and one says it is "Organic" the other says "All Natural". Is there any difference... not that it matters too much because both are great. Just wondering is all.

No difference.

It's all marketing.

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Bammer wrote:
No difference.

It's all marketing.


I suppose you didnt bother reading this thread :lol:

Although marketing is a big reason, there are huge differences.


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