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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:07 pm 
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5415320.stm

Canada in protest over rendition
By Lee Carter
BBC News, Toronto

Canada is to make a formal protest to the United States over the case of a Canadian man deported to Syria in 2002 over suspected al-Qaeda links.

Maher Arar claims that he was tortured in Damascus after being detained by US officials while changing planes in the US on a flight from Tunisia to Ottawa.

A Canadian government inquiry cleared him of any involvement in terrorism.

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the US should "come clean" about its "inappropriate conduct".

Mr Arar was detained and questioned by US customs agents while changing planes on his way back from a holiday in Tunisia in New York's JFK airport in September 2002.

He was subsequently deported to Syria. A Canadian government inquiry supported his claims to have been tortured during his eight months of imprisonment in the country.

The inquiry also took Canada's own police force to task over the incident.

A letter of protest is now being delivered by Canada's foreign minister to US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

The Canadian Prime Minister, Steven Harper, said that he had also told the US President George W Bush about Canada's protest by telephone.

Mr Harper said that he had wanted US officials to deal honestly with Canada in the future and prevent incidents like this from happening again.

"What I would like to see is obviously the United States government come clean with its version of events to acknowledge the deficiencies and the inappropriate conduct that occurred in this case," he said.

Mr Harper said that he had received assurances from Mr Bush that the matter would be looked into seriously.

A White House spokesperson said that the phone call was welcomed by the president, but had little else to say about Canada's protest.


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Cool. The more idiotic and morally obtuse the US can look around the world the better.


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Seriously, what's Canada going to do? HAHA!

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$úñ_DëV|L wrote:
Seriously, what's Canada going to do? HAHA!


Make a big stink about us Torturing one of their citizens in Syria right before midterm elections.


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$úñ_DëV|L wrote:
Seriously, what's Canada going to do? HAHA!


Make a big stink about us Torturing one of their citizens in Syria right before midterm elections.


If that shit that Congress pushed through for Bush doesn't piss people off, they're not gonna give a flying fuck about this.

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Buggy wrote:
Cool. The more idiotic and morally obtuse the US can look around the world the better.


How are we better off by looking "idiotic and morally obtuse" around the world?????


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LeninFlux wrote:
Buggy wrote:
Cool. The more idiotic and morally obtuse the US can look around the world the better.


How are we better off by looking "idiotic and morally obtuse" around the world?????


Because then they can point fingers and say "I told you so".

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its not aboot diplomacy

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In Canada, the blame is all on the previous Canadian gov't and the current US gov't.... absolutely nothing about Syria.


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its not aboot diplomacy


Yee-haw, i love KFC for breakfast.


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LeninFlux wrote:
Buggy wrote:
Cool. The more idiotic and morally obtuse the US can look around the world the better.


How are we better off by looking "idiotic and morally obtuse" around the world?????


Because when we look bad enough, we wont have anywhere else to go but up. And so far, we're looking pretty terrible. I can feel it coming. We just need a few more moronic blunders to add to the pile.


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Buggy wrote:
LeninFlux wrote:
Buggy wrote:
Cool. The more idiotic and morally obtuse the US can look around the world the better.


How are we better off by looking "idiotic and morally obtuse" around the world?????


Because when we look bad enough, we wont have anywhere else to go but up. And so far, we're looking pretty terrible. I can feel it coming. We just need a few more moronic blunders to add to the pile.


We have a ways to go yet before we reach the level of some of the world's notorious regimes such as the Khmer Rouge or the Nazis. Trust me, we could go much further down if that's what you're hoping for.

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Great, even Can-fucking-ada has more guts than our government. When's mine going to lodge a protest for our guy?

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canada should shut the fuck up

did the US govt lodge any complaints for the 10 million or so people who were tortured when my heart will go on was released?

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Peeps wrote:
canada should shut the fuck up

did the US govt lodge any complaints for the 10 million or so people who were tortured when my heart will go on was released?


That makes no sense at all. If one of our citizens was tortured by our allies gov't, how would you like to be told to shut the fuck up??


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Peeps wrote:
canada should shut the fuck up

did the US govt lodge any complaints for the 10 million or so people who were tortured when my heart will go on was released?


And still no trial in sight.


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vegman wrote:
Peeps wrote:
canada should shut the fuck up

did the US govt lodge any complaints for the 10 million or so people who were tortured when my heart will go on was released?


That makes no sense at all. If one of our citizens was tortured by our allies gov't, how would you like to be told to shut the fuck up??


you cant be serious, can you?

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I'm a little curious to know just exactly how this guy was tortured.

Was he tortured? Or was he put in a dark room, forced to eat pork, and forced to listen to ruthless dogs bark at him. Perhaps getting some slobber on him during the process.

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I'm a little curious to know just exactly how this guy was tortured.

Was he tortured? Or was he put in a dark room, forced to eat pork, and forced to listen to ruthless dogs bark at him. Perhaps getting some slobber on him during the process.


Yeah, torture has seriously gotten watered down lately. What happen to the old days when they would scoop out your eyeballs with a spoon and threaten to cut out your tongue if you don't talk, while actually following through with their threats? What happened to several months in a contortion box? It's no wonder we can't get anybody to talk anymore.

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a detailed first-hand account of what Mr.Arar went through.....

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/arar/ ... ement.html

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