I'm not trying to be a downer, but as a public school graduate I have no idea what you are talking about.

But I'm all for Turkey in the EU. Let them try practicing a little of that multiculturalism they preach.

Orhan Pamuk
During a February 2005 interview with Das Magazin, Orhan Pamuk, a famous Turkish novelist, (Nobel Prize winner, 2006) made statements implicating Turkey in massacres against Armenians and persecution of the Kurds, declaring: "Thirty thousand Kurds and a million Armenians were killed in these lands and nobody but me dares to talk about it". Subjected to a hate campaign, he left Turkey, before returning in 2005 in order to defend his right to freedom of speech: "What happened to the Ottoman Armenians in 1915 was a major thing that was hidden from the Turkish nation; it was a taboo. But we have to be able to talk about the past".[36] Lawyers of two Turkish professional associations then brought criminal charges against Pamuk.[37] On January 23, 2006, however, the charges of "insulting Turkishness" were dropped (because of technical reasons), a move welcomed by the EU — that they had been brought at all was still a matter of contention for European politicians.

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So click on the link i posted, please. The basics are that the turks killed 1 million armenians during the WWI and they refuse to admit that, and if a turkish person talks about, this person can be arrested for being "unpatriot", just what happened few years ago to the recent peace nobel prize winner



Oh, and guess what SOAD's Holy Mountains is about?

This whole thread is about the French law that makes it a cry to deny that the armenian genocide occured, correct? I don't like these laws that pretty much say you have freedom of speech as long as its a popular view. If anything I would think that anti-holocaust denial laws and the like just encourage racists and bigots by making them out to be martyrs fighting against injustice.

As to the topic at hand - there's an Armenian Club at my university, and they have an event every year to try to bring some attention to this nearly forgotten act. Methinks that when the level of killing that occurs gets to the point where the Germans lose their lunch; you've gone too far. Do you think this is a good rule of thumb?

wow...i never knew about this until today.

roughly 1.5 million armenians were killed by the ottoman empire between the 1895 and the 1923.