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there are way to many religion threads already, but i had no idea in which one to post this, hence i started a new one.

http://www.christianexaminer.com/Articl ... 06_12.html

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Controversial new Dutch Bible cuts out difficult gospel passages

By Michael Ireland — ANS

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THE NETHERLANDS — A new Bible translation produced in Holland that aims to be more attractive and market-oriented is causing controversy after it cut out difficult parts surrounding economic justice, possessions and money.
The new Bible version, released by the Western Bible Foundation in the Netherlands, has created a storm by trying to make the Christian gospel more palatable.

Chairman W. R De Rijke said the foundation has reacted to a growing wish of many churches to be market-oriented and more attractive.

"Jesus was very inspiring for our inner health, but we don't need to take his naïve remarks about money seriously. He didn't study economics, obviously," he said.

De Rijke said no serious Christian takes these texts literally.

"What if all Christians stopped being anxious, for example, and started expecting everything from God? Or gave their possessions to the poor, for that matter. Our economy would be lost. The truth is quite the contrary: a strong economy and a healthy work ethic is a gift from God."

The foundation wanted to "boldly go where no one else has gone before" by cutting out the confusing texts, the news release said.

"We don't use them anyway! There's no single Christian selling his possessions and giving them to the poor," DeRijke added.

The Western Bible is published, so far only in Dutch, by the well-known Christian publisher Buijten & Schipperheijn. In it, some of the most important passages of the Bible: the Ten Commandments, sections of Isaiah, Proverbs, and the Sermon on the Mount, contain holes where the original translation urged radical actions around money, justice or affluence.

Hundreds of Western Bibles have been sold in the first few weeks, while anxious Christians filled newspapers and Web logs with their doubts.

But it seems there is sometimes more anger than humor among Christians.

It is published by Time to Turn, a network of Christian students and young adults in the Netherlands "who want to choose a sustainable and just way of life, based on their faith in Jesus Christ."

"They do not believe in a new legalism, or in a utopian state, but in a God who is willing to deliver the world from materialism and injustice,” the release said. “Time to Turn is linked to the international student movement Speak.”

Frank Mulder, chairman of Time to Turn, said he is surprised by the commotion caused by the new Bible version.

"Many Christians accept the Western lifestyle, including the degradation of creation and the injustice of our trade, and they only take the easy parts of the gospel,” he said. But it isn't until we publish this gospel with holes, that they get confused!"

Time to Turn is soon to publish a companion Bible study about the holes.


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The foundation wanted to "boldly go where no one else has gone before" by cutting out the confusing texts, the news release said.

"We don't use them anyway! There's no single Christian selling his possessions and giving them to the poor," DeRijke added.


To be fair, Christ wasn't suggesting that everyone everywhere drop everything, give their belongings to the poor, and follow him. He said this to the rich young ruler and to him only, because riches and material possessions were what he held to be the most important in his life.

This is probably the one of the least confusing teachings of the Bible. Crazy Dutch.


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Didn't the Catholic Church do this ages ago?

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$úñ_DëV|L wrote:
Didn't the Catholic Church do this ages ago?


Yeah, it was called "constructing the Bible"


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It's not like this would be the first time that a new Bible changed language from a previous version to make it more understandable or palatable to the intended audience, but this seems a bit cavalier, don't you think?

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"What if all Christians stopped being anxious, for example, and started expecting everything from God? Or gave their possessions to the poor, for that matter. Our economy would be lost. The truth is quite the contrary: a strong economy and a healthy work ethic is a gift from God."


This is in stark contrast to what many evangelicals believe. They feel that living by faith; trusting that God will take care of you, is the most spirtitually fulfilling way to live. By completely surrendering yourself to God, you demonstrate your complete faith in him. Is it a practical way to live? Probably not, but it sure is more spiritual. At what point do modifications to a faith cause the faith to no longer be the same religion?


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The Dutch should stick to producing highly potent legalized drugs and hookers and leave the bible alone.


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Ampson11 wrote:
The Dutch should stick to producing highly potent legalized drugs and hookers and leave the bible alone.

Their Bibles are made from hemp paper.

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punkdavid wrote:
Ampson11 wrote:
The Dutch should stick to producing highly potent legalized drugs and hookers and leave the bible alone.

Their Bibles are made from hemp paper.


a couple of years ago (like 5) i was in the city once on a sunday and they had a sermon in a coffeeshop, this "priest" had the bible in one hand and a mega joint in the other. :lol:


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