Okay, I've recently realized that Loveless is among the greatest albums ever created. Isn't Anything is also pretty great, though Kevin Shields came a long way with his guitar work since then. I downloaded the Glider and Tremolo EP's, and both are pretty nifty.
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I have a whole shitload of their early EPs, but none of it really compares to Isn't anything and Loveless
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jim wrote:
i downloaded a few tracks but i have yet to "get it". i can hardly hear what they are saying.
that apparently is part of their "thing". the vocals are supposed to be just part of the song, not the focus. i hear where you are coming from, but the few lyrics i do understand don't really seem to add much to the sound/song.
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jim wrote:
i downloaded a few tracks but i have yet to "get it". i can hardly hear what they are saying.
I personally see the vocals as just another instrument, rather than the central part of the song as vocals tend to be. Similar to the way Jonsi's vocals blend in with the music in Sigur Ros's music.
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I feel that I am justified in bumping not 1 but 2 My Bloody Valentine threads because to be completely honest and unbiased, Loveless is probably the best piece of recorded music to reach human ears in the past 17 years.
There is no emoticon equipped to express the magnitude of my adulation for Loveless.
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It is one of my 25 favourites of the 90's, but I dunno if I can place it at number one.
State your case.
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I'll state a case suitable for 2:15 in the morning.
It took about 10 listens before I "got" the first 5 tracks, mostly because I "got" When You Sleep. Then it took about 20 more listens before I "got" the rest of it. But holy shit, when I got Sometimes and What You Want, oh man. Game over.
Every night before I go to sleep I put something in my CD player. This is one of the only times I listen to something based purely on what I love. I would guess that probably 75 times over the past year it has been Loveless.
Stating a case, right... There could be some albums out there that are as beautiful as Loveless. Maybe Agaetis Byrjun, maybe Ladies and Gentlemen..., maybe Emperor Tomato Ketchup, maybe Psychocandy, maybe Soft Bulletin, maybe a lot more. But only Loveless completely threw traditional "melodies" out of the window to do it. Those other things are fucking awesome, yeah, but somewhere somehow you can trace those songs back to some other song that used the same chords and notes, or some combination of.
Loveless is so incredible because I can't even contemplate where the songs came from. Each one is so unique it's like something I have never heard before. Shit everyone talks about the texture of the album which there is no denying is incredible but it pales next to the complexity of the layers used to make their sounds.
And talk about using the voice as just another instrument. Never have I been less likely to actually listen to words in a song than I am with Loveless. Fuck I think the only lyrics I know are "When I look at you, I don't know what's real".
I mean I don't know man I can't expect anyone to see things the exact same way I do... I am perfectly happy if someone has them in their top 25 of the decade or if they don't have them on their list at all.
I'll be honest though I think Soft Bulletin, MCATIS, and OK Computer are the only albums from the 90s that Loveless doesn't straight bend over and give it to. Not even Young Team.
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Jim wrote:
i downloaded a few tracks but i have yet to "get it". i can hardly hear what they are saying.
your not really supposed to. I think its all about the atmosphere of the music and the voice is almost more of an insturment. I dont even know why they wrote lyrics at all.
the first time I heard it, I thought it sounded really harsh, its kinda both hard on your ears and really feels good to listen to at the same time, just in different parts of the songs.
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It's been a long time, well over ten years since I heard MBV. I was a big fan back then, my experience was similar to Buffalohed's in terms of the amount of time I had to spend with their records before I understood why every critic in England was calling Kevin Shields a genius. Loveless is one of those records that's always in the back of my mind to revisit.
Still, I heard Soon the other day and to be honest it sounded a bit dated - I can't help associating that indie dance rhythm with a very specific period of time - so maybe MBV are best left as good memories for me.
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Do we really need two MBV threads on the same page
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