It's the same way I feel about Michael Moore and Tom Cruise. I might not care for their views outside of filmmaking, but I respect each one for their work. Mel is a great filmmaker, and I look forward to each film he directs. Whats the problem with seeing the positive side? I'll see "Apocolypto" just because of "Braveheart" and "Passion".
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I didn't care for Passion, but he's definitely made more good acting choices than bad.
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Mel Gibson is not a bad filmmaker. I'd see Apolcalypto.
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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
he's probably not a bad guy either. he said some shit publically and everyone chastised him. then they secretly held on to their own prejudices. polanski, meanwhile, can't even re-enter the country and he won an academy award.
mel gibson makes good movies and acts very well. tom cruise makes good movies with ridiculous vanity shots and acts very well.
he's probably not a bad guy either. he said some shit publically and everyone chastised him. then they secretly held on to their own prejudices. polanski, meanwhile, can't even re-enter the country and he won an academy award.
mel gibson makes good movies and acts very well. tom cruise makes good movies with ridiculous vanity shots and acts very well.
polanski fucked a 13 year old girl and used drugs to do this
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Peeps wrote:
inglishteecher wrote:
he's probably not a bad guy either. he said some shit publically and everyone chastised him. then they secretly held on to their own prejudices. polanski, meanwhile, can't even re-enter the country and he won an academy award.
mel gibson makes good movies and acts very well. tom cruise makes good movies with ridiculous vanity shots and acts very well.
polanski fucked a 13 year old girl and used drugs to do this
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
inglishteecher wrote:
he's probably not a bad guy either. he said some shit publically and everyone chastised him. then they secretly held on to their own prejudices. polanski, meanwhile, can't even re-enter the country and he won an academy award.
mel gibson makes good movies and acts very well. tom cruise makes good movies with ridiculous vanity shots and acts very well.
polanski fucked a 13 year old girl and used drugs to do this
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MarshVegas wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
inglishteecher wrote:
he's probably not a bad guy either. he said some shit publically and everyone chastised him. then they secretly held on to their own prejudices. polanski, meanwhile, can't even re-enter the country and he won an academy award.
mel gibson makes good movies and acts very well. tom cruise makes good movies with ridiculous vanity shots and acts very well.
polanski fucked a 13 year old girl and used drugs to do this
a little worse than saying, i hate jews
Yeah, it's that black and white.
So where's the gray area in raping a minor?
Both parties were pretty smashed. Think about it though, why in the hell was a thirteen-year-old at a party at Jack Nicholson's house? Can anyone say "star-fucker"?
I'm not saying it makes it right, I'm just saying I think people are taking it out of context. It's not like it was premeditated rape he planned for.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
MarshVegas wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
inglishteecher wrote:
he's probably not a bad guy either. he said some shit publically and everyone chastised him. then they secretly held on to their own prejudices. polanski, meanwhile, can't even re-enter the country and he won an academy award.
mel gibson makes good movies and acts very well. tom cruise makes good movies with ridiculous vanity shots and acts very well.
polanski fucked a 13 year old girl and used drugs to do this
a little worse than saying, i hate jews
Yeah, it's that black and white.
So where's the gray area in raping a minor?
Both parties were pretty smashed. Think about it though, why in the hell was a thirteen-year-old at a party at Jack Nicholson's house? Can anyone say "star-fucker"?
I'm not saying it makes it right, I'm just saying I think people are taking it out of context. It's not like it was premeditated rape he planned for.
So why didn't he go to trial, if he didn't mean to rape her? Even if she was looking to get laid she was THIRTEEN.
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MarshVegas wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
MarshVegas wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Peeps wrote:
inglishteecher wrote:
he's probably not a bad guy either. he said some shit publically and everyone chastised him. then they secretly held on to their own prejudices. polanski, meanwhile, can't even re-enter the country and he won an academy award.
mel gibson makes good movies and acts very well. tom cruise makes good movies with ridiculous vanity shots and acts very well.
polanski fucked a 13 year old girl and used drugs to do this
a little worse than saying, i hate jews
Yeah, it's that black and white.
So where's the gray area in raping a minor?
Both parties were pretty smashed. Think about it though, why in the hell was a thirteen-year-old at a party at Jack Nicholson's house? Can anyone say "star-fucker"?
I'm not saying it makes it right, I'm just saying I think people are taking it out of context. It's not like it was premeditated rape he planned for.
So why didn't he go to trial, if he didn't mean to rape her? Even if she was looking to get laid she was THIRTEEN.
He hasn't been back to America in 30 years.
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there is no way anyone with even a smidge of sanity, can defend what polanski did
Nobody gives a fuck anymore.
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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
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Calling him a pedophile is a laughable. It was a drunken, drugged-up mistake. Hell, for all you know, he thought she was 18. And for what it's worth, the woman has publicly said she holds no grudges.
Either way, the man makes incredible films, and that's all that matters.
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Peeps wrote:
glorified_version wrote:
Peeps wrote:
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there is no way anyone with even a smidge of sanity, can defend what polanski did
Nobody gives a fuck anymore.
if that was the case, why hasnt polanski come back?
people can be very forgiving. except when youre a pedophile
Well I still don't care. Polanski raping a drunk 13 year-old groupie is Polanski's business, not yours. Obviously he can't come back to the United States. And the behavior is still fucked from my standpoint. But a lot of men in his position of power would could have done the same thing. A LOT. There's no moral clarity in situations like this. Humanity is fucked up.
If people actually took Polanski to be a scummy pedo-dirtbag, he wouldn't have been able to keep making movies. He's an artist, not some exploiter.
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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
Well I still don't care. Polanski raping a drunk 13 year-old groupie is Polanski's business, not yours. Obviously he can't come back to the United States. And the behavior is still fucked from my standpoint. But a lot of men in his position of power would could have done the same thing. A LOT. There's no moral clarity in situations like this. Humanity is fucked up.
If people actually took Polanski to be a scummy pedo-dirtbag, he wouldn't have been able to keep making movies. He's an artist, not some exploiter.
id like to think that alot of men wouldnt do that, just the scum of the earth, but youre probably right. but just because a lot would do it, doesnt mean its right or excusable because hes some artist. if thats the case, mike shouldnt have worried about paying off any parents, right?
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Peeps wrote:
glorified_version wrote:
Well I still don't care. Polanski raping a drunk 13 year-old groupie is Polanski's business, not yours. Obviously he can't come back to the United States. And the behavior is still fucked from my standpoint. But a lot of men in his position of power would could have done the same thing. A LOT. There's no moral clarity in situations like this. Humanity is fucked up.
If people actually took Polanski to be a scummy pedo-dirtbag, he wouldn't have been able to keep making movies. He's an artist, not some exploiter.
id like to think that alot of men wouldnt do that, just the scum of the earth, but youre probably right. but just because a lot would do it, doesnt mean its right or excusable because hes some artist. if thats the case, mike shouldnt have worried about paying off any parents, right?
I guess. I don't know who Mike is.
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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
Well I still don't care. Polanski raping a drunk 13 year-old groupie is Polanski's business, not yours. Obviously he can't come back to the United States. And the behavior is still fucked from my standpoint. But a lot of men in his position of power would could have done the same thing. A LOT. There's no moral clarity in situations like this. Humanity is fucked up.
If people actually took Polanski to be a scummy pedo-dirtbag, he wouldn't have been able to keep making movies. He's an artist, not some exploiter.
id like to think that alot of men wouldnt do that, just the scum of the earth, but youre probably right. but just because a lot would do it, doesnt mean its right or excusable because hes some artist. if thats the case, mike shouldnt have worried about paying off any parents, right?
I guess. I don't know who Mike is.
jackson, yanno, the other guy out there with a fondness for underage but is one hell of an artist?
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