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Culture Shock on Capitol Hill: House to Work 5 Days a Week

By Lyndsey Layton
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 6, 2006; Page A01

Forget the minimum wage. Or outsourcing jobs overseas. The labor issue most on the minds of members of Congress yesterday was their own: They will have to work five days a week starting in January.

The horror.

(By Caleb Jones -- Associated Press)
Wednesday, Dec. 6, at 11 a.m. ET

Rep. Steny H. Hoyer, the Maryland Democrat who will become House majority leader and is writing the schedule for the next Congress, said members should expect longer hours than the brief week they have grown accustomed to.

"I have bad news for you," Hoyer told reporters. "Those trips you had planned in January, forget 'em. We will be working almost every day in January, starting with the 4th."

The reporters groaned. "I know, it's awful, isn't it?" Hoyer empathized.

For lawmakers, it is awful, compared with what they have come to expect. For much of this election year, the legislative week started late Tuesday and ended by Thursday afternoon -- and that was during the relatively few weeks the House wasn't in recess.

Next year, members of the House will be expected in the Capitol for votes each week by 6:30 p.m. Monday and will finish their business about 2 p.m. Friday, Hoyer said.

With the new calendar, the Democrats are trying to project a businesslike image when they take control of Congress in January. House and Senate Democratic leaders have announced an ambitious agenda for their first 100 hours and say they are adamant about scoring legislative victories they can trumpet in the 2008 campaigns.

Hoyer and other Democratic leaders say they are trying to repair the image of Congress, which was so anemic this year it could not meet a basic duty: to approve spending bills that fund government. By the time the gavel comes down on the 109th Congress on Friday, members will have worked a total of 103 days. That's seven days fewer than the infamous "Do-Nothing Congress" of 1948.

Hoyer said members can bid farewell to extended holidays, the kind that awarded them six weekdays to relax around Memorial Day, when most Americans get a single day off. He didn't mention the month-long August recess, the two-week April recess or the weeks off in February, March and July.

He said members need to spend more time in the Capitol to pass laws and oversee federal agencies. "We are going to meet sufficient times, so the committees can do their jobs on behalf of the American people," he said.

For lawmakers within a reasonable commute of Washington, longer weeks are not a burden -- although they are likely to cut into members' fundraising and campaigning activities. But for members from Alaska and Hawaii, the West Coast, or rural states, the new schedule will mean less time at home and more stress.

"Keeping us up here eats away at families," said Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.), who typically flies home on Thursdays and returns to Washington on Tuesdays. "Marriages suffer. The Democrats could care less about families -- that's what this says."

Time away from Washington is just as important to being an effective member of Congress as time spent in the Capitol, Kingston added. "When I'm here, people call me Mr. Congressman. When I'm home, people call me 'Jack, you stupid SOB, why did you vote that way?' It keeps me grounded."

Rep. Elton Gallegly (R-Calif.), who had intended to retire this year, only to be persuaded to run again, wondered whether the new schedule was more than symbolic. "If we're doing something truly productive, that's one thing," he said. "If it's smoke-and-mirrors hoopla, that's another."

Senate leaders have not set their schedule, but the upper chamber generally works a longer week than the House, though important votes or hearings are usually not scheduled on Mondays or Fridays.

House Majority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), one of the architects of the lighter workweek, put the best Republican face on Hoyer's new schedule.

"They've got a lot more freshmen then we do," he said of the Democrats. "That schedule will make it incredibly difficult for those freshmen to establish themselves in their districts. So we're all for it."

The new schedule poses a headache for Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), who runs her 7-year-old daughter's Brownie troop meetings on Monday afternoons in Weston, Fla. "I'll have to talk to the other mothers and see if we can move it to the weekend," she said.

Setting a calendar that satisfies 435 members is impossible, said the current majority leader, Rep. John A. Boehner (R-Ohio), who will become minority leader in January. "Between the travel issues, the members' work schedules, the family and district issues, it was a Rubik's cube," he said.

But most Democrats, some still giddy from their election victories, seemed game.

"It's long overdue," said Rep. Mike Thompson (D-Calif.), who lives in Napa Valley and will have to leave his home at 3 a.m. on Sundays to catch a flight to Washington in time for work Mondays. "I didn't come here to turn around and go back home."

Staff writer Jonathan Weisman contributed to this report.

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Representative Kingston, you are a fucking tool.

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"I have bad news for you," Hoyer told reporters. "Those trips you had planned in January, forget 'em. We will be working almost every day in January, starting with the 4th."


Suckers! Don't hurt yourselves. I don't have to be back at work until January 2nd.

Oh ... wait ... :cry:

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"If we're doing something truly productive, that's one thing," he said. "If it's smoke-and-mirrors hoopla, that's another."

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"Keeping us up here eats away at families," said Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.), who typically flies home on Thursdays and returns to Washington on Tuesdays. "Marriages suffer. The Democrats could care less about families -- that's what this says."


hahahahaha!

not only is that about as infantile a comment as I can think of, but the dolt didn't even use the expression correctly.

couldn't care less...you dork, COULDN'T. :roll:

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"Keeping us up here eats away at families," said Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.), who typically flies home on Thursdays and returns to Washington on Tuesdays. "Marriages suffer. The Democrats could care less about families -- that's what this says."


hahahahaha!

not only is that about as infantile a comment as I can think of, but the dolt didn't even use the expression correctly.

couldn't care less...you dork, COULDN'T. :roll:


In any other context this would have been an ironic joke, but after looking the guy up:

Image

No. He's dead serious.

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"If we're doing something truly productive, that's one thing," he said. "If it's smoke-and-mirrors hoopla, that's another."


My thoughts are, if Congress doesn't have at least 4 days a week worth of work to do, they should take a MASSIVE paycut.

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LittleWing wrote:
"If we're doing something truly productive, that's one thing," he said. "If it's smoke-and-mirrors hoopla, that's another."


My thoughts are, if Congress doesn't have at least 4 days a week worth of work to do, they should take a MASSIVE paycut.


I'm pretty sure there are more than enough issues for congress to deal with to constitute a regular work week- and they still need to take a paycut.

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malice wrote:
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"Keeping us up here eats away at families," said Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.), who typically flies home on Thursdays and returns to Washington on Tuesdays. "Marriages suffer. The Democrats could care less about families -- that's what this says."


hahahahaha!

not only is that about as infantile a comment as I can think of, but the dolt didn't even use the expression correctly.

couldn't care less...you dork, COULDN'T. :roll:


In any other context this would have been an ironic joke, but after looking the guy up:

Image

No. He's dead serious.


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malice wrote:
B wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
"If we're doing something truly productive, that's one thing," he said. "If it's smoke-and-mirrors hoopla, that's another."


My thoughts are, if Congress doesn't have at least 4 days a week worth of work to do, they should take a MASSIVE paycut.


I'm pretty sure there are more than enough issues for congress to deal with to constitute a regular work week- and they still need to take a paycut.


Well, there's a lot of Libertarians on the board. I didn't want to come right out and encourage our government to do any work.

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Steny Hoyer (D-MD) can probably work a 60 hour work week and still eat all his meals at home, so why should he care?

Still, this past session was a disgrace, and this is probably a good move.

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B wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
"If we're doing something truly productive, that's one thing," he said. "If it's smoke-and-mirrors hoopla, that's another."


My thoughts are, if Congress doesn't have at least 4 days a week worth of work to do, they should take a MASSIVE paycut.


I'm pretty sure there are more than enough issues for congress to deal with to constitute a regular work week- and they still need to take a paycut.


Well, there's a lot of Libertarians on the board. I didn't want to come right out and encourage our government to do any work.


Aww, how considerate of you. :)
I'd imagine it'd take a fair amount of work to repeal the vast quantity of legislation that Libertarians would want to do away with. :P


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I'm not sure what bothers me more....Congress getting things done (that's alarming enough) or that expecting you to put in a full week means being antifamily.


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I'm not sure what bothers me more....Congress getting things done (that's alarming enough) or that expecting you to put in a full week means being antifamily.

if putting in a full week is antifamily, then they should let everyone else in the country work a few less days, eh?

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I agree that it's lame for them to be bitching about this.

But to play devil's advocate...they don't get to go home after work and spend time with their families like most people. When they work 5 days a week, they are gone for a full 5 days. That only leaves two day to see their families at all.

They, of course, should understand this going into it, though.

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One would think someone who says such a thing would support the six hour work day along with an increase in wages, but I doubt that fellow does.

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I'd imagine it'd take a fair amount of work to repeal the vast quantity of legislation that Libertarians would want to do away with. :P


You're going to have to pay them! WITH THE INCOME TAX!! :shock:

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I agree that it's lame for them to be bitching about this.

But to play devil's advocate...they don't get to go home after work and spend time with their families like most people. When they work 5 days a week, they are gone for a full 5 days. That only leaves two day to see their families at all.

They, of course, should understand this going into it, though.


Meh, there are plenty of people who see their families only on the weekends and LESS, and they make dick compared to a US Senator. That dude what shows up (late, probably) on Tuesday and leaves (early, probably) on Thursday can suck my fucking dick if he thinks I'm going to pity him for having to work a couple of five day weeks next month.

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simple schoolboy wrote:
I'd imagine it'd take a fair amount of work to repeal the vast quantity of legislation that Libertarians would want to do away with. :P


You're going to have to pay them! With excise taxes, as originally prescribed by the constitution! :shock:


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Gimme Some Skin wrote:
I agree that it's lame for them to be bitching about this.

But to play devil's advocate...they don't get to go home after work and spend time with their families like most people. When they work 5 days a week, they are gone for a full 5 days. That only leaves two day to see their families at all.

They, of course, should understand this going into it, though.


Meh, there are plenty of people who see their families only on the weekends and LESS, and they make dick compared to a US Senator. That dude what shows up (late, probably) on Tuesday and leaves (early, probably) on Thursday can suck my fucking dick if he thinks I'm going to pity him for having to work a couple of five day weeks next month.


Exactly, there is a guy that works for me and he works an 8 hour day for us, then works another 2-3 hours at a second job and doesn't get home until 9PM. He gets to see his family a grand total of 1-2 hours a day, and that is 5 or 6 days a week. I don't want to hear about Senators only getting 2 1/2 to 3 days with their family and complaining about it. That is one of the prices you pay for being a US Senator! Shut up!

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