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looks pretty damn fake to me, and don't believe the certificate.
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Five Horizons wrote:
Guarantees of "certificate of authenticity!" (or "CoA") are also worthless unless you know who stands behind the certificate. If they don't tell you who is behind the CoA in the auction description, ask. It is your money; you are the buyer; you are perfectly entitled to ask these questions. The CoA should be backed up by a known authority, someone you can call yourself and ask about the item in question. That is the whole point of a Certificate of Authenticity. If the seller objects or is evasive, that should indicate to you that the provenance of the item is seriously in question. (For those who are not "Antiques Roadshow" junkies, "provenance" means:"the source and ownership history of an item". In other words: it is most likely a fake! )
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My thoughts on COA's on ebay:
Tommy: Let's think about this for a sec, Ted, why would somebody put a guarantee on a box? Hmmm, very interesting.
Ted Nelson, Customer: Go on, I'm listening.
Tommy: Here's the way I see it, Ted. guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to fell all warm and toasty inside.
Ted Nelson, Customer: Yeah, makes a man feel good.
Tommy: 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right, Ted?
Ted Nelson, Customer: What's your point?
Tommy: The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy, well, we're not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser and your daughter's knocked up, I seen it a hundred times.
Ted Nelson, Customer: But why do they put a guarantee on the box?
Tommy: Because they know all they solda ya was a guaranteed piece of shit. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.
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B wrote:
Five Horizons wrote:
Guarantees of "certificate of authenticity!" (or "CoA") are also worthless unless you know who stands behind the certificate. If they don't tell you who is behind the CoA in the auction description, ask. It is your money; you are the buyer; you are perfectly entitled to ask these questions. The CoA should be backed up by a known authority, someone you can call yourself and ask about the item in question. That is the whole point of a Certificate of Authenticity. If the seller objects or is evasive, that should indicate to you that the provenance of the item is seriously in question. (For those who are not "Antiques Roadshow" junkies, "provenance" means:"the source and ownership history of an item". In other words: it is most likely a fake! )
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PeopleMyAge wrote:
well, like i said that coa doesnt look like it's offical at all anyway, and it looks like it was printed off on his computer.
too bad it's not real though...my favorite album signed by my favorite band would be a nice find
If you'd seriously considering buying this item, there's no reason not to ask the seller who stands behind the CoA. I can't read it from the picture. It looks like it might be "Mr. Joe Mamma".
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B wrote:
PeopleMyAge wrote:
well, like i said that coa doesnt look like it's offical at all anyway, and it looks like it was printed off on his computer.
too bad it's not real though...my favorite album signed by my favorite band would be a nice find
If you'd seriously considering buying this item, there's no reason not to ask the seller who stands behind the CoA. I can't read it from the picture. It looks like it might be "Mr. Joe Mamma".
I'd trust him if he is a registered notary
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stip wrote:
B wrote:
PeopleMyAge wrote:
well, like i said that coa doesnt look like it's offical at all anyway, and it looks like it was printed off on his computer.
too bad it's not real though...my favorite album signed by my favorite band would be a nice find
If you'd seriously considering buying this item, there's no reason not to ask the seller who stands behind the CoA. I can't read it from the picture. It looks like it might be "Mr. Joe Mamma".
I'd trust him if he is a registered notary
No registary notary can possibly be named Joe Mamma.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:50 am Posts: 1838 Location: Perth, Australia Gender: Male
im not big on signatures. they do very little for me.
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it doesn't make any sense to me.. why would you buy a signed CD if it wasn't meant to be yours. It'd be a totally different story if you actually met the band and they signed it to you.
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Hinny wrote:
stip wrote:
B wrote:
PeopleMyAge wrote:
well, like i said that coa doesnt look like it's offical at all anyway, and it looks like it was printed off on his computer.
too bad it's not real though...my favorite album signed by my favorite band would be a nice find
If you'd seriously considering buying this item, there's no reason not to ask the seller who stands behind the CoA. I can't read it from the picture. It looks like it might be "Mr. Joe Mamma".
I'd trust him if he is a registered notary
No registary notary can possibly be named Joe Mamma.
what about joey jo jo shabadoo?
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stip wrote:
Hinny wrote:
stip wrote:
B wrote:
PeopleMyAge wrote:
well, like i said that coa doesnt look like it's offical at all anyway, and it looks like it was printed off on his computer.
too bad it's not real though...my favorite album signed by my favorite band would be a nice find
If you'd seriously considering buying this item, there's no reason not to ask the seller who stands behind the CoA. I can't read it from the picture. It looks like it might be "Mr. Joe Mamma".
I'd trust him if he is a registered notary
No registary notary can possibly be named Joe Mamma.
Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 44183 Location: New York Gender: Male
Play C3 wrote:
stip wrote:
Hinny wrote:
stip wrote:
B wrote:
PeopleMyAge wrote:
well, like i said that coa doesnt look like it's offical at all anyway, and it looks like it was printed off on his computer.
too bad it's not real though...my favorite album signed by my favorite band would be a nice find
If you'd seriously considering buying this item, there's no reason not to ask the seller who stands behind the CoA. I can't read it from the picture. It looks like it might be "Mr. Joe Mamma".
I'd trust him if he is a registered notary
No registary notary can possibly be named Joe Mamma.
what about joey jo jo shabadoo?
i think it was joey jo jo junior shabadu
thats the worst name i ever heard.
he just doesn't put the junior on his business card
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