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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:28 pm 
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I replaced the old power supply in my desktop computer with one that has a little bit higher wattage (the old one died).

I have everything hooked back up and everything is getting power and apparently running ok from a mechanical standpoint, however when I start up the computer I get no BIOS beep and there is no output to the monitor?

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my hard drive is on IDE-1 as master and then i have a cd-rom and a cd-rw on IDE-2 (one is master and one is slave). Floppy drive is on FDD. The CD roms both open and close if i hit the buttons, so they're getting power - presumably this means the hard drive is getting power as well. Everything worked fine before the power supply went on the fritz, except that they system would shut down when the power supply got too hot because the fan in it stopped working.

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you have a weird avatar :?

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Kommienezuspadt wrote:
you have a weird avatar :?


yup, that's the reason your PC's all messed up to hell.

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malice wrote:
Kommienezuspadt wrote:
you have a weird avatar :?


yup, that's the reason your PC's all messed up to hell.

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i'm not exactly sure how, but after taking everything apart and putting it back together, the computer boots fine. however, it appears the CMOS got reset or something between all the taking apart and putting back together.

so i go into the CMOS setup to reinstall all my goods, and it can't find the hard drive (primary master) or the CD-RW drive (sec master) but it finds the CD-ROM (sec slave) just fine. no autodetect, and no use trying to set it as a user type thing.
all cables appear to be snug and everything.

what gives?

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wasn't this called "explosions and fire" or something?

seriously though, i don't know. maybe you should call some professional person or something. or throw it down the stairs.

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knuckles of frisco wrote:
i'm not exactly sure how, but after taking everything apart and putting it back together, the computer boots fine. however, it appears the CMOS got reset or something between all the taking apart and putting back together.

so i go into the CMOS setup to reinstall all my goods, and it can't find the hard drive (primary master) or the CD-RW drive (sec master) but it finds the CD-ROM (sec slave) just fine. no autodetect, and no use trying to set it as a user type thing.
all cables appear to be snug and everything.

what gives?


it could be the ide cable is fried, or when you took the hard drive and cd drive out, did you change the jumpers on them per chance?

if you want,ill be on aim for the next 15 minutes (until 1230 est)

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lemoncoatedafterworld wrote:
wasn't this called "explosions and fire" or something?

seriously though, i don't know. maybe you should call some professional person or something. or throw it down the stairs.

yeah, but now i have an identifiable problem to title the thread. before, i didn't know what was going on so i just tried to get people's attention.

if i call a pro, they'll charge me money and i'll never learn to do this stuff myself!

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Peeps wrote:
knuckles of frisco wrote:
i'm not exactly sure how, but after taking everything apart and putting it back together, the computer boots fine. however, it appears the CMOS got reset or something between all the taking apart and putting back together.

so i go into the CMOS setup to reinstall all my goods, and it can't find the hard drive (primary master) or the CD-RW drive (sec master) but it finds the CD-ROM (sec slave) just fine. no autodetect, and no use trying to set it as a user type thing.
all cables appear to be snug and everything.

what gives?


it could be the ide cable is fried, or when you took the hard drive and cd drive out, did you change the jumpers on them per chance?

if you want,ill be on aim for the next 15 minutes (until 1230 est)

it appears i've missed you on aim

yeah, i swapped the jumpers on the hard drive a bit - my last ditch before throwing the whole thing out and starting with new hardware was to make sure the hard drive wasn't configured funky on the jumpers that for some reason worked before but isn't working now. sure enough, when i checked the documentation for the drive, i had an extra jumper that didn't match any configuration they had in there...so i popped that one off, hooked it up to the mobo by itself and voila, i had numbers and letters on my monitor for the first time in weeks.

of course, nothing worked since it wasn't hooked up and i got a message about the CMOS battery being low and the CMOS settings wrong and another CMOS message i can't remember.
i shut down, put everything back together, restart, everything's fine except it can't find the HD or the CD-RW (the cd-rw is on the same ide cable as the cd-rom which it is finding ok).
Thinking the jumpers were the culprit, i replaced the jumper i removed in the same spot, restarted...same problem.

i may have a spare (blank) hard drive somewhere in the house, would it be any use seeing if i can get that one to work?

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knuckles of frisco wrote:
it appears i've missed you on aim

yeah, i swapped the jumpers on the hard drive a bit - my last ditch before throwing the whole thing out and starting with new hardware was to make sure the hard drive wasn't configured funky on the jumpers that for some reason worked before but isn't working now. sure enough, when i checked the documentation for the drive, i had an extra jumper that didn't match any configuration they had in there...so i popped that one off, hooked it up to the mobo by itself and voila, i had numbers and letters on my monitor for the first time in weeks.

of course, nothing worked since it wasn't hooked up and i got a message about the CMOS battery being low and the CMOS settings wrong and another CMOS message i can't remember.
i shut down, put everything back together, restart, everything's fine except it can't find the HD or the CD-RW (the cd-rw is on the same ide cable as the cd-rom which it is finding ok).
Thinking the jumpers were the culprit, i replaced the jumper i removed in the same spot, restarted...same problem.

i may have a spare (blank) hard drive somewhere in the house, would it be any use seeing if i can get that one to work?


change the jumper settings. its possible you have them set for cable select and should change them to either master/slave depending on the device. windows XP can at times be funny about the jumper settings. since cable select is supposed to let XP figure out which it is, at times it can be really screwy with a master slave relationship

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Peeps wrote:
change the jumper settings. its possible you have them set for cable select and should change them to either master/slave depending on the device. windows XP can at times be funny about the jumper settings. since cable select is supposed to let XP figure out which it is, at times it can be really screwy with a master slave relationship

the jumpers are set to master currently for both the hard drive and the cd-rw. should i just try some other configurations and see what i can make happen?

i'm running win 98, though (;

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i think we might have run into the problem with win98 also

are you sure the IDE cable is functional also?

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Peeps wrote:
i think we might have run into the problem with win98 also

are you sure the IDE cable is functional also?

not really. although the slave cd-rom drive is working, so it at least works that far.

i don't see any reason why the cables would've stopped working because i took the computer apart, but i also suppose anything's possible.

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knuckles of frisco wrote:
Peeps wrote:
i think we might have run into the problem with win98 also

are you sure the IDE cable is functional also?

not really. although the slave cd-rom drive is working, so it at least works that far.

i don't see any reason why the cables would've stopped working because i took the computer apart, but i also suppose anything's possible.


my pc at home, in the middle of the night, my computer went blank ( i use it to listen to MP3s during the night) and it rebooted, since the power was on, what happened is my ide cable went bad (or was it the power supply cable) and caused the reboot, and it said i no operating system found.

i freaked for about 2 minutes untill i deduced the problem

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Peeps wrote:
knuckles of frisco wrote:
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i think we might have run into the problem with win98 also

are you sure the IDE cable is functional also?

not really. although the slave cd-rom drive is working, so it at least works that far.

i don't see any reason why the cables would've stopped working because i took the computer apart, but i also suppose anything's possible.


my pc at home, in the middle of the night, my computer went blank ( i use it to listen to MP3s during the night) and it rebooted, since the power was on, what happened is my ide cable went bad (or was it the power supply cable) and caused the reboot, and it said i no operating system found.

i freaked for about 2 minutes untill i deduced the problem

alright, sold. where's a good place to pick up some new IDE cables? does circuit city carry this sort of thing?

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knuckles of frisco wrote:
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knuckles of frisco wrote:
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i think we might have run into the problem with win98 also

are you sure the IDE cable is functional also?

not really. although the slave cd-rom drive is working, so it at least works that far.

i don't see any reason why the cables would've stopped working because i took the computer apart, but i also suppose anything's possible.


my pc at home, in the middle of the night, my computer went blank ( i use it to listen to MP3s during the night) and it rebooted, since the power was on, what happened is my ide cable went bad (or was it the power supply cable) and caused the reboot, and it said i no operating system found.

i freaked for about 2 minutes untill i deduced the problem

alright, sold. where's a good place to pick up some new IDE cables? does circuit city carry this sort of thing?


im fairly certain that they do

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why i hate circuit city and best buy, reason #1,290: they only sell ide cables that cost like $25 and are all fancy and sparkly

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knuckles of frisco wrote:
why i hate circuit city and best buy, reason #1,290: they only sell ide cables that cost like $25 and are all fancy and sparkly


was that the problem?

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