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Rate Jeremy
5 Stars: An all time classic 53%  53%  [ 57 ]
4 Stars: Great song 32%  32%  [ 35 ]
3 Stars: Average 8%  8%  [ 9 ]
2 Stars: Just not feeling it 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
1 Star: Try to forget this....try to erase this... 3%  3%  [ 4 ]
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Jeremy

At home
Drawing pictures
Of mountain tops
With him on top
Lemon yellow sun
Arms raised in a V
The dead lay in pools of maroon below

Daddy didn't give attention
To the fact that mommy didn't care
King Jeremy the wicked
Ruled his world

Jeremy spoke in class today
Jeremy spoke in class today

Clearly I remember
Pickin' on the boy
Seemed a harmless little fuck
Oh, but we unleashed a lion
Gnashed his teeth
And bit the recess lady's breast
How could I forget
He hit me with a surprise left
My jaw left hurtin
Oh, dropped wide open
Just like the day
Like the day I heard

Daddy didn't give affection
And the boy was something mommy wouldn't wear
King Jeremy the wicked
Ruled his world

Jeremy spoke in class today
Jeremy spoke in class today
Jeremy spoke in class today

Try to forget this...
Try to erase this...
From the blackboard

Jeremy spoke in class today
Jeremy spoke in class today




Previous Songs of the Moment
1. In My Tree
2. Red Mosquito
3. Porch
4. I Got Id
5. Release
6. Do The Evolution
7. Breath
8. Corduroy
9. Elderly Woman...
10. Leash
11. Hail Hail
12. Grievance
13. Love Boat Captain
14. Even Flow
15. Black Red Yellow
16. In Hiding
17. Can't Keep
18. Indifference
19. Insignificance
20. Whipping
21. Black
22. Smile
23. Push Me Pull Me
24. Rats
25. God's Dice
26. All or None
27. Yellow Ledbetter
28. Last Exit
29. Who You Are
30. Rearview Mirror
31. Hold On
32. Present Tense
33. Light Years
34. Alive
35. Brain of J
36. Thumbing My Way
37. Hard to Imagine
38. Tremor Christ
39. Rival
40. Animal
41. Lukin
42. You Are
43. betterman
44. Given to Fly
45. Once
46. Low Light
47. Parting Ways
48. Off He Goes
49. Go
50. get right
51. World Wide Suicide
52. Angel
53. MFC
54. Long Road
55. Why Go
56. Nothingman
57. Save You
58. Of A Girl
59. Habit
60. Satan’s Bed
61. Faithful
62. Oceans
63. Gone
64. WMA
65. State of Love and Trust
66. Spin The Black Circle
67. Life Wasted
68. Arc
69. Garden
70. All Those Yesterdays
71.Sleight of Hand
72. Other Side
73. Let Me Sleep
74. I’m Open
75. Blood
76.Nothing As It Seems
77. All Night

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I love Jeremy, and while it isn’t my favorite Pearl Jam song by a long shot, it is an excellent song that does not deserve a fraction of the shit that it gets.

Musically it’s got one of the more famous beginnings in rock music history, with a slow, brooding build that sounds like it’s leading somewhere important (and it is). Once the verses start the music gets a little buried in the mix though. It carries the song along, but this is clearly going to be Eddie’s show, and he doesn’t disappoint. Jeremy is one of Eddie’s stronger vocal outings, with a deep, rich performance that gives the lyrics extra power and depth

Lyrically Jeremy is slightly uneven. The first verse is terrific, with some wonderfully evocative lyrics, with pictures of a bloody apocalypse forshadowing what is going to come. The prechorus gives Jeremy the sympathy that he need to make the song poigniant. And the vagueness of the King Jeremy the wicked line is well done—wtihout punctuation it could mean a number of different things

King Jeremy the Wicked ruled his world—Here Jeremy is the villain, a bad kid in charge of his own little violent fantasy

King Jeremy, the wicked ruled his world—a much sadder line—here Jeremy lacks power and control—he’s just a kid at the mercy of abusive forces he cannot control

I’ve always loved the simplicity of Jeremy spoke in class today. It leaves what was said vague (until the video, at any rate), but the urgency surrounding the delivery of the lyric (more from the music) tells you that you know what was said was important, and the final Try to forget this…lyrics make it clear that whatever was said was something shocking, and something permanent, something that no one will be able to escape for a long time.

The second verse is the weak link here. It’s supposed to demonstrate that Jeremy is a troubled, confused kid starting fights and trouble (from the standpoint of an observer, not from the standpoint of Jeremy) but it just isn’t that compelling. I would have rather seen more from Jeremy’s perspective

The outro lasts a little too long, but it is powerful enough that I don’t mind too much. Like the end of black (deep too), it is just wordless howls and worlds falling apart, music for someone whose life is shattering around them with them unable to do anything to stop it as it bleeds into the ominous final notes.

This is one of those songs that has held up live on the strength of audience participation—being able to sing the woah’s with a room full of 15,000 people (congrats on your tour by the way Europe) is always a powerful experience and Jeremy is always a concert highlight for me

The video does destroy some of the ambiguity of the song. I don’t remember what I thought about the song before the video came out, but I think I may have thought it was about Jeremy killing his classmates rather than himself (it works better as suicide—it’s a sadder song that way). Fortunately the story part of the video is so well done that I don’t care (although the shots of the band jumping around are so f’ing stupid)

Anyway, 4 stars from me.

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I can't believe we haven't done Jeremy yet!

A very good PJ song. 4 stars.

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5 stars, easily.

I can't wait to hear the whole 70.000 Werchter crowd screaming "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-OOOOOOOO-OOOO-O-OOOOOOOOOOW". You know what I mean. :wink:


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Stip, your write-up was 10 times better than the song. I especially like your interpretation of the "King Jeremy the wicked" line concerning punctuation. I never thought of it that way, but then again, I don't really care enough about the song to. :)

I give it 2 stars, the second star only coming because some of Ed's lyrics here are really intriguing.

I fucking detest the video.

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this song doesnt do much for me anymore, but ill give it 5 stars b/c i recognize its greatness in pj history. also, the video is part of the reason im a fan.

the slowed down version and the back in the day versions are the best. i love when he used to scream "daddy didnt give affection, and the boy was something that mommy wouldnt wear""

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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
Stip, your write-up was 10 times better than the song. I especially like your interpretation of the "King Jeremy the wicked" line concerning punctuation. I never thought of it that way, but then again, I don't really care enough about the song to. :)

I give it 2 stars, the second star only coming because some of Ed's lyrics here are really intriguing.

I fucking detest the video.


would you like the video if the band wasn't in it?

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stip wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
Stip, your write-up was 10 times better than the song. I especially like your interpretation of the "King Jeremy the wicked" line concerning punctuation. I never thought of it that way, but then again, I don't really care enough about the song to. :)

I give it 2 stars, the second star only coming because some of Ed's lyrics here are really intriguing.

I fucking detest the video.


would you like the video if the band wasn't in it?


No. I think I've said this before--the video ruined how I interpreted the song.

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3.5, close to 4 stars for me. "Jeremy" has always been middle-of-the-road for me. Some days I love it, other days I don't care for it.

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Classic Song 5 stars

The narrative of the song did not need the story telling video in my opinion. It spoon feeds the viewer everthing in the song, whereas the same as Stip i beleived it was more about a kick back against the students in the class for attention rather than self harm

Great lyrics, and an absolutely massive song live


And once again Stip a great write up


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i would like to see them resurrect the alternate version live...

4 stars

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i would like to see them resurrect the alternate version live...


The alternate version is brilliant. I'd love to hear it again.

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Classic no doubt. If anything this song suffered from being too popular for its own good.
This was the song that turned me down the Pearl Jam path. I was big into Guns N'Roses at the time and was indifferent towards both Even Flow and Alive at first. But I liked Jeremy as it started getting airplay. Loved the guitars and the vocals. I remember hearing someone say about Ten "there's not a bad song there" and this Eddie Vedder guy was starting to get a lot of attention. I bought the cassette and haven't looked back.
It still holds up as a great rock song. It can be hit or miss in concert; it's easy to pick out a half-hearted version. But when the band is clicking and Ed's voice has held up the song is a piledriver of the show. The audience usually gets into it too, with the "arms raised in a V" and the "ooh-ooh"s.

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the studio version is a 3 or 4...but live it is 5 for sure! Just to see Jeff grabbing the 12-string bass give me chills.

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the studio version is a 3 or 4...but live it is 5 for sure! Just to see Jeff grabbing the 12-string bass give me chills.


i don't think i've ever seen you NOT mentioning a bass (player) when you post in PJ chat/live or OB.


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the studio version is a 3 or 4...but live it is 5 for sure! Just to see Jeff grabbing the 12-string bass give me chills.


i don't think i've ever seen you NOT mentioning a bass (player) when you post in PJ chat/live or OB.


So read my posts again :lol:

And cmon, the most remarkable instrumental lines of this song made by the bass, both the openning and ending.

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4 Stars because even though it was overplayed and even though a lot of people think they sold out with this song, it was really good. I liked the video. and it was the second Pearl Jam song I ever heard.

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Human Bass wrote:
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the studio version is a 3 or 4...but live it is 5 for sure! Just to see Jeff grabbing the 12-string bass give me chills.


i don't think i've ever seen you NOT mentioning a bass (player) when you post in PJ chat/live or OB.


So read my posts again :lol:

And cmon, the most remarkable instrumental lines of this song made by the bass, both the openning and ending.


True that! I once borrowed the bass guitar from a friend of mine (I'm a guitar player myself) and the first thing I played was Jeremy.


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stip wrote:
It’s got one of the more famous beginnings in rock music history.

5 stars. It's a classic.


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4 stars, regardless of what the snobs say, you would not have heard of the band if not for this song.

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