from 2000-2003 i taught at a high school of only about 250 students... of the 25 faculty or so, there were 3 male teachers who married former students (all which they had in a class at some point)... right or wrong?

discuss....

Are the wives hot?

It's always a little disgusting when something like that happens. There's always that stigma of pedophaelia hanging in the air...like some sort of musky mold smell.

how long did they wait to marry that someone and what was the age difference?

my students are at least of legal age, but im like 99% sure that if any of them wanted to sleep with me (which is also 99% improbable that they are that desperate enough) i would atleast wait til the semester was over

i only knew two of the guys fairly well... one claims nothing happened during the school year, but the other is more than willing to admit hooking up before the schoolyear ended... one guy is 38 and his wife 26, while the other is 33 with a 24 year old wife... so they both were like what 30 and 27 when they began their relationships with 18 yearolds... the final guy who i didnt know very well was the head football coach and had his wife as a freshman in high school, so go figure

and no, none of them were very hot... sorry to sound superficial, but due to their ugliness i just didnt get it

there is always taht thought hanging in the air... man, when i went to pearl jam in champaign in 03 there were 5 smokin students of mine that ran into me at the show... it wasnt easy, but i maintained not becoming a pederass (sp?)

so you teach college kids?... i wouldnt be able to make it a semester with some of em... more power to ya

its not so bad in the winter months, cause they dont wear belly shirts and daisy dukes then....

ive only had one gal i would consider very hot, she leaned over a desk as i was coming back to help her with a problem. i saw about 5 inches of whale tail and 3 inches of her ass crack. i thought about just passing her for the class at that moment

always tough flunkin the cuties... god im a pig

well, her grades werent even close to failing, i just thought id give her a free pass

Pederast: a person that does it with a boy (and by boy I mean a kid boy, not a dude or man).

If they weren't students at the time, I have no problem with it. It's a bit creepy, but not illegal.

is that the same pederast as in big lebowski? (think that's the movie)

Well, apparently he was one. That's why he had to go door-to-door. Flippin' Quintana!!

Wrong.

A teacher's job and responsibility is to convey information to students, and the trust given them is that they will do so in a responsible fashion condusive to learning.

A teacher who breaches the trust afforded to them by parents in the care of their children, and who forges a relationship with a child outside the scope of learning or the child's personal growth, should be stripped of their job.

That's my opinion. I'm thinking in terms of, for example, the woman in Washington state who was with a pre-teenage boy, went to jail, had a kid from him, got out, and went back and did it again,.... This woman did NO service to this kid. He's a drop out with two children, and has a "girlfriend" who is an ex-convict. Absolutely outrageous and unacceptable.

I feel similarly toward college professors who date their students. Just because someone is 18-24 years old, doesn't mean that, as their teacher in college, it's okay to "date" them. College professors and educators are similarly responsible for creating an environment condusive to learning, NOT one condusive to getting their groove on or combating their lonliness, or whatever.

In my opinion, it doesn't even matter if the 18-24 year old in college concents to a relationship with their teacher, it's the teacher's responsibility to not allow such things to occur in the first place. Their job is to convey information and "teach -- the student should be able to seek out relationships with "peers" in the appropriate social settings and be alowed that growth experience, rather than getting "hooked up with a teacher".

Anyone who teaches needs to learn that their social life and their personal relationships are things they should pursue outside of their classrooms and not with their students, but with their own "peer" group.

I'm probably alone in this view, however.

Also, you did mention that they married former students -- I "suppose" once the person was no longer a student, maybe that is different -- but I don't really think so, at least not completely. I guess that could be considered "gray area", but if somone is willing to marry a "former student", at what point did the "interest" or the relationship actually start? I mean, if it started while the person was a student of that teacher, then all the diatribe above "stands" (for me at least). If the entire relationship started and was consumated when the person was no longer a student, I can see that would be somewhat of an exception; for example, a student leaves the school and then comes back as a teacher, and is now part of their former teacher's "peer group".



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well...if the love is real, its ok

let me clarify, i would probably never ever date one of my students, i do know some that have. though i guess date isnt the right word, but one of my teachers from my highschool did indeed marry one of his "former" students, and everyone thought it was pretty icky

also let me clarify im not an official prof or anything, its a part time job i do during the two semesters of school, but even then, while i have seen some beautiful students, ive never even come close to acting on anything

No clarification needed - you don't need to defend yourself or explain your position relative to your question, it is a valid inquiry.

I was a substitute for 1 year at an all boys prep school, grades 9 - 12, and also worked 6 weeks of summer school for grades 7 - 12 at the same school working the bookstore and substituting in the classroom as needed. It was the most enjoyable and most fullfilling 9 months of my entire life. I would not trade the experience for anything in the world, and I wish I were still there. The Vice Principle decided that he wanted a former student to do the substitute work for the next school year, so I was "out".

I loved it though. It was as if I had 1,406 nephews - only two bad ones in the bunch. They were terrific kids even though some of them didn't "look like" kids; I would not and could not even for a split second begin to remotely consider betraying their trust insomuchas it was my responsibility to maintain order in the room and convey to them any instructions their teacher left behind. There were a couple of kids who seemed to take a liking to me and often went out of their way to say hello to me and such, and I simply took that as the highest form of flattery a student (child) could give, that they were comfortable enough to think of me as someone they would "want" to say "hello" to in front of their friends (peers), even with me being a "sub" (staff member).

I would also, given the age difference alone, NEVER ever even remotely consider any sort of relationship of any kind with any of the kids even outside of the school. I am 20 years older than them; how unfair is THAT, when they each have a world of experiences they need to go work through with their peers.

Shame on the person who thinks that their own personal needs outweighs the "life" someone 10 to 20 or more years younger than they are is entitled to go experience.

Again, I might be alone in that view - but if I were a parent, and my 19 year old son (or daughter) came home and told me they were going on a date with a teacher (assuming the teacher is older than my child, or even if the teacher is 24 years old, makes no difference), I'd be LIVID. I would be compelled to explain the importance of recognizing the individual as an authority figure with a specific job to do which does not include socializing with students, and remind my child of the hundreds of other people with whom he/she can socialize with outside of the classroom.

Teachers, teachers aids, staff members, the janitor, the bus driver, the principle, a counsellor, coaches... makes no difference (to me), they are on the school grounds for one reason and one reason alone: to secure and suppor the education, safety, comfort, and the success of each and every student on a given campus, and to maintain an environment condusive to that, nothing less and nothing more. Their social life might mix among themselves as staff members, but it should NOT cross over into the realm of their students.

Again, just my opinion - I feel very strongly about it (obviously) but if someone were to ask me to clarify "why", my only response would be "because".

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Yeah. Prep schools are like that. Generally a much lower degree of behavioral issues.



Depends on the grade level. If a student is going to develop in a way which encourages the highest degree of success at the high school and college level, then in lower grades the emphasis should definately be on thinking skills, problem solving, and some skill acquisition. That's one of the most rediculous elements of NCLB testing...it emphasizes collection of information.

Teacher/student relationships once said student has graduated is a non-issue, in my mind. Relationships between students and professors are definately unethical on the professor's part, especially since the fucking semester only lasts a number of months. Wait. Wait.