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you make very interesting observations, and a good case.
in sociology, we'd reference Erving Goffman and "impression management" instead of suggesting identity crisis. He manages the impression he gives. He conforms (to a certain extent) to the environment around him for greater social acceptance (amongst those he's interacting with AND with/for any on-lookers)
shakespeare said it best with that whole "the world is a stage..." bit
This guy goes through fads and faster than most go through socks.
Why the hell does it matter? Have you worn the same clothes and had the exact same hair for the last 15 years? Do you like only one band and only one type of music? Have you never changed what type of music you listen to?
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Isaac Turner wrote:
in sociology, we'd reference Erving Goffman and "impression management" instead of suggesting identity crisis. He manages the impression he gives. He conforms (to a certain extent) to the environment around him for greater social acceptance (amongst those he's interacting with AND with/for any on-lookers)
Post subject: Re: Does Eddie have an identity crisis?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:13 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
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1/2 empty wrote:
stompbox wrote:
This guy goes through fads and faster than most go through socks.
Why the hell does it matter? Have you worn the same clothes and had the exact same hair for the last 15 years? Do you like only one band and only one type of music? Have you never changed what type of music you listen to?
ps. i really do not care... it is a topic for conversation
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badabing wrote:
conoalias wrote:
i'm pretty sure he's not the only person on this planet who changes his haircut every year or so.
I don't....of course pre-mature baldness is a factor
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stompbox wrote:
Isaac Turner wrote:
in sociology, we'd reference Erving Goffman and "impression management" instead of suggesting identity crisis. He manages the impression he gives. He conforms (to a certain extent) to the environment around him for greater social acceptance (amongst those he's interacting with AND with/for any on-lookers)
aka A POSER
deeper than that though. those who are able to learn the rules of the game are then able to abide by them, break the specific ones when in need to protest, and essential making them more successful.
if it weren't so, there'd be no Pearl Jam, stompbox
and
after reading that whole "cathedral of stone" thing about 80's ed, it's interesting how much of his personal aesthetics of commercial successes from the times are waived/not mentioned, and instead the older or more obscure bands are referenced and heralded. that whole bono things especially is interesting, and makes for a better understanding of their relationship.
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Isaac Turner wrote:
after reading that whole "cathedral of stone" thing about 80's ed, it's interesting how much of his personal aesthetics of commercial successes from the times are waived/not mentioned, and instead the older or more obscure bands are referenced and heralded. that whole bono things especially is interesting, and makes for a better understanding of their relationship.
I thought so too when I first read that.
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i think this falls under "don't talk about the band's personal life"
either way, we probably shouldn't be talking about it anyway...so what. he does shit. he's a well rounded guy that likes to serf as well as do other shit. who cares
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stip wrote:
Isaac Turner wrote:
after reading that whole "cathedral of stone" thing about 80's ed, it's interesting how much of his personal aesthetics of commercial successes from the times are waived/not mentioned, and instead the older or more obscure bands are referenced and heralded. that whole bono things especially is interesting, and makes for a better understanding of their relationship.
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mray10 wrote:
stip wrote:
Isaac Turner wrote:
after reading that whole "cathedral of stone" thing about 80's ed, it's interesting how much of his personal aesthetics of commercial successes from the times are waived/not mentioned, and instead the older or more obscure bands are referenced and heralded. that whole bono things especially is interesting, and makes for a better understanding of their relationship.
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Isaac Turner wrote:
mray10 wrote:
stip wrote:
Isaac Turner wrote:
after reading that whole "cathedral of stone" thing about 80's ed, it's interesting how much of his personal aesthetics of commercial successes from the times are waived/not mentioned, and instead the older or more obscure bands are referenced and heralded. that whole bono things especially is interesting, and makes for a better understanding of their relationship.
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warehouse wrote:
Isaac Turner wrote:
mray10 wrote:
stip wrote:
Isaac Turner wrote:
after reading that whole "cathedral of stone" thing about 80's ed, it's interesting how much of his personal aesthetics of commercial successes from the times are waived/not mentioned, and instead the older or more obscure bands are referenced and heralded. that whole bono things especially is interesting, and makes for a better understanding of their relationship.
can you summarize those 19 pages into 19 sentances or so?
some wanker was friends with Ed in San Diego. Ed recorded demos at his place. Said wanker was interested in the music industry. Took a course at UCLA all about it. Ed asked endless questions about every dynamic, which he goes into detail explaining what specifically ed wanted to know. Tapping his brain.
Ed carried a tape recorder around, recording himself. Read poetry, liked the Romantics, insinuates 'Immortality' lyric references from some of what Ed read back then (Coleridge or Wordsworth, I can't remember who the wanker says). Beyond, Ed was really concered about faith and God and the bigger picture. He was trying to work it out for himself (makes Deep make more sense), and moreover, was generally concerned about self-help, growth, self-improvement, and general healing. God and faith fit into that equation somehow, and Ed struggled to resolve it
Attended a Cubs game against the Padres with Ed. Ed called them the Madres. He likes to sit in right-centerfield and kick his short 5'6 legs up on the seat in front.
After finding out all about how the business worked, he made a demo with this guy. No one paid attention. He mailed it out. He gave it out. Not even a fat middle-aged lady from a record company who was sent to a guitar shop to host a "break into the business" seminar thing, in which she told the crowd about the biz, and in between, would pull demo-tapes out of a hat to critique. Ed's never was drawn. Unfortunately. He'd gotten to the store super early and was the first in line. Always wanted to make music. While working the graveyard at the gas station and business was slow, he'd record in the station's garage because of good acoustics. Never had a plan b for life. Realized he needed to be in a band on a stage to get the record companies' attention and thus formed Bad Radio.
Beth worked for a record company and Ed tried to use that in-road to break into the business
He LOVED u2, and the police. Thought Bono was god like most of us think Ed is. He even got to meet Bono in a hotel in Chicago when he was younger. and had buttons of bono's mug on his leather jacket as he progressed into his 20s. long and short of it.
basically revealed a somewhat star-struck ed, with ambition out the wahoo, and a bit of naivete and willingness to be opportunistic.
best part though, this wanker blocked a mccready punt while mookie was in san diego to play a show (the all played a football game before the showin a field near Ed's moms' house--where they had met up before going to the field) and he ended up jamming mccready's finger pretty bad and it got swollen so that mccready couldn't wank when he soloed and he said mccready had to adapt and he actually did and did well and it left a lasting impression on him.
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