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Pete Rose revealed Wednesday that he bet on the Reds "every night" while he was manager of the team and that the Dowd Report was correct when it said he did so.

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Appearing on the Dan Patrick Show on ESPN Radio, Pete Rose said he bet on the Reds to win every night while he was their manager because he believed in his team. Listen
Rose spoke Wednesday with Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann on ESPN Radio to discuss the new Pete Rose exhibit that will be on display at the Great American Ballpark as part of the Reds Hall of Fame. The exhibit will be on display for 11 months.

"I bet on my team every night. I didn't bet on my team four nights a week. I was wrong," Rose said.

Rose said that he believed in his team so much that he bet on them to win every night.

"I bet on my team to win every night because I love my team, I believe in my team," Rose said. "I did everything in my power every night to win that game."

Rose accepted a lifetime ban for gambling in 1989, but denied for nearly 15 years that he bet on baseball. He finally acknowledged in his latest autobiography, published in January 2004, that he made baseball wagers while he managed the Cincinnati Reds.

Rose said he doesn't worry about getting into the Hall of Fame anymore, but if he is reinstated, he hopes to manage again in the majors.

"I quit worrying about it," Rose said about the Hall. The former Reds great said that he thought he was going to be reinstated when he met with commissioner Bud Selig before his book came out. Rose said he met with Selig about a year before the book came out and told him everything that was in the book.

"I really thought I was going to be reinstated. Something changed [Selig's] mind," Rose said.

Rose said he believes it should be up to each individual owner whether he should manage in the majors again.

"[It's] all about dollars, Dan and Keith. If I was ever reinstated. If an owner don't want to win and draw people, don't call my number," Rose said.

Major League Baseball's Hit King also said he thinks that Mark McGwire is getting a raw deal from the writers voting for the Hall of Fame. The reason he said he supported McGwire is because nothing has been proven and they're all "allegations."

"Don't penalize McGwire because you think other guys are taking steroids," Rose said.

McGwire wasn't voted into the Hall of Fame in his first appearance on the ballot in January because of allegations he used performance-enhancing drugs in his career.

Rose admits he made a mistake in betting on baseball.

"I made a big mistake. It's my fault, It's nobody's else's fault," Rose said. However, he said he should be reinstated because "I'm the best ambassador baseball has."

Because of the ban, Rose is not eligible for induction into the Reds' or Baseball's Hall of Fame. He also is not allowed to be involved in most on-field activities, which has prevented the Reds from retiring his uniform No. 14.

Major League Baseball did include him in two events -- 1999's All-Century Team and 2002's 30 Memorable Moments -- that were sponsored by a credit card company.

The new exhibit includes more than 300 items from the career of Rose, who finished playing in 1986 with a record 4,256 hits. His total is reflected at the Reds' Hall in a three-story high wall of baseballs -- one for each hit.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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good, put him in the hall already

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I really don't even have much to say. I just want to thank him for all the time I spent arguing over this with people in high school.

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in other news, the NFL adopts the forward pass.

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Hey guys, I just heard on the radio that if you sail far enough across the Atlantic, you WON'T fall over the edge!

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Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
in other news, the NFL adopts the forward pass.
:lol:

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sportsfreakpete6 wrote:
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in other news, the NFL adopts the forward pass.
:lol:


Hehe.

But I think the true groundbreaker here is not so much that Rose bet on baseball, but that he admitted that he did.


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good, put him in hell already


Yeah, I'm SURE he bet on his own team every night...

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the guy needs to be in the hall.

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punkdavid wrote:
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good, put him in hell already


Yeah, I'm SURE he bet on his own team every night...


First: I didn't bet on baseball.
Then: Ok, ok, I bet on baseball but not on my team.
Then: Ok, I bet for my own team, but only because I believed in them.
Next: ?

I suppose there's a next logical step to that.

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I'm with Phil. I don't believe the guy for one second and I'm glad he isn't in the HOF.

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PhilPritchard wrote:
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good, put him in hell already


Yeah, I'm SURE he bet on his own team every night...


First: I didn't bet on baseball.
Then: Ok, ok, I bet on baseball but not on my team.
Then: Ok, I bet for my own team, but only because I believed in them.
Next: ?

I suppose there's a next logical step to that.

If you're implying that he fixed games, I don't think someone as psycho-competitive as him would be able to lose on purpose.


I owe MLB an apology for once taking Rose's side.


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punkdavid wrote:
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Yeah, I'm SURE he bet on his own team every night...

he seems to competitive too throw games

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Mike and Mike made a great point this morning: even if he did bet on his team every night (which he likely didn't) - what if he bet 5k one night...and 500 hundred the next?

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Peter Van Wieren wrote:
I'm with Phil. I don't believe the guy for one second and I'm glad he isn't in the HOF.


Agreed. Rose has done nothing but lie since he was banned from the game. Why should we now beleive what he's saying!?

Betting on baseball when you are a player or manager is unforgiveable in my eyes, no matter how great a player you were. By betting on baseball, whether or not it was on your own team or not, compromises the competitive nature of sport.

He has no place in the Hall of Fame.


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Can we give Ty Cobb his record back? Ty was the fucking man.

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Every night, i finish my bedtime prayer with "...and thank you Jesus for keeping Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame. Amen."

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Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
Mike and Mike made a great point this morning: even if he did bet on his team every night (which he likely didn't) - what if he bet 5k one night...and 500 hundred the next?

Exactly. I'm not saying that he bet against his own team (and I ain't saying he didn't either), but even a smart gambler doesn't make the same bet every night, or bet at all on some nights.

He's a fucking lying sack of shit, and that's one of the nicer things I could say about him.

If he were allowed into the Hall, I wouldn't protest, because his play has warranted his entry, but my life is happier for the fact that he's not, and won't probably be in his lifetime. Put him in after he's dead, that's fine with me, just don't let that fuck get any pleasure out of it.

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