what year, tour or album do you think ed ved's voice was or is sounding the best? i think from 91 to 94 and then 98. i love it any time but those are my favorites. how about you all? maybe even include your least favorite if there is a such thing.
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definetly the earlier years...(Ten and Vs. era) but i also think that is because the music from that time compensated his voice better than the music on the other albums. None the less, his voice is still amazing.
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It certainly wasn't '95, I think most people will agree to that. There were some fantastic shows that year, but Ed's voice wasn't up to par for most of them.
I'd have to say '98 and 2003 were his best years, and I say this not to disrespect the early years of '91-'93, those were great years too, but Ed has so much more range now. The songs demand more from him vocally, where as in the earlier stuff it was pretty much the same vocal style for all the songs.
But this is only the opinion of one.
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the Doctorb wrote:
It certainly wasn't '95, I think most people will agree to that. There were some fantastic shows that year, but Ed's voice wasn't up to par for most of them. I'd have to say '98 and 2003 were his best years, and I say this not to disrespect the early years of '91-'93, those were great years too, but Ed has so much more range now. The songs demand more from him vocally, where as in the earlier stuff it was pretty much the same vocal style for all the songs. But this is only the opinion of one. D
your opinion is spot on.
and also, so many shows from 91-94 were so inconsistent, couldnt hit the notes and ranges that were demanded, instead they were just forced and screamed, dont get me wrong..some of the best shows from that period are incredible but...overall..not consistent.
95, blah.. ed couldnt sing for shit, could never hit that note in corduroy, couldnt last a full show. its actually kindo f funny. 95, not a great period in my opinion. a few great shows yea, but...
anywho.
98 and 2003...
98 his voice was back in prime shape, had range, screamed like hell still...
2000 -...just tired...etc..you know.
2003/. amazing range, could hold notes like you wouldnt believe, beautiful voice, still intense..just not as intense screams all the time...
In 1991 his range was from 1-10, he could scream and hit high notes like the tail end of release.
2003 his range is 3-9. He can't scream. His voice can't do it like he used to and he can't hit the high notes like he did. For example when he sings release now, his voice fails him for the last high note.
Anyone who thinks he has more range now is an idiot. He has sang differently because he has no choice. He can't do all of what he could do.
I'm not knocking him but being honest with myself.
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Fat yet Eager wrote:
Actually Ed has much less range now.
In 1991 his range was from 1-10, he could scream and hit high notes like the tail end of release.
2003 his range is 3-9. He can't scream. His voice can't do it like he used to and he can't hit the high notes like he did. For example when he sings release now, his voice fails him for the last high note.
Anyone who thinks he has more range now is an idiot. He has sang differently because he has no choice. He can't do all of what he could do.
I'm not knocking him but being honest with myself.
I don't measure quality of singing by range. To me, nuance, emotion and involvement are more important.
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Fat yet Eager wrote:
Actually Ed has much less range now.
In 1991 his range was from 1-10, he could scream and hit high notes like the tail end of release.
2003 his range is 3-9. He can't scream. His voice can't do it like he used to and he can't hit the high notes like he did. For example when he sings release now, his voice fails him for the last high note.
Anyone who thinks he has more range now is an idiot. He has sang differently because he has no choice. He can't do all of what he could do.
I'm not knocking him but being honest with myself.
i guess im an idiot then
thanks for calling all of us idiots, ass.
its opinion.
screaming isnt a range in my opinion. if you heard every show from 91-94...you'd hear how inconsisten ed was...but you dont, you hear the highly circulated boots. was his voice powerful?yea, im not arguing that. but now you heare very single show....
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It's funny you all say these negative things about the 95 tour. Certainly, Ed's voice was probably at its worst then, but it's still my favorite tour, and I love every show from it.
Anyway, in answer to the question, I think Ed's voice was at its peak in 98.
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Fat yet Eager wrote:
Actually Ed has much less range now.
In 1991 his range was from 1-10, he could scream and hit high notes like the tail end of release.
2003 his range is 3-9. He can't scream. His voice can't do it like he used to and he can't hit the high notes like he did. For example when he sings release now, his voice fails him for the last high note.
Anyone who thinks he has more range now is an idiot. He has sang differently because he has no choice. He can't do all of what he could do.
I'm not knocking him but being honest with myself.
I guess I'm an idiot too.
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its obviously different now than it was. now it seems ed's voice shines on songs like fatal, but sounds horrible on a song like porch. i really miss the intensity and the rage, but the mellowness is nice too.
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In 1991 his range was from 1-10, he could scream and hit high notes like the tail end of release.
2003 his range is 3-9. He can't scream. His voice can't do it like he used to and he can't hit the high notes like he did. For example when he sings release now, his voice fails him for the last high note.
Anyone who thinks he has more range now is an idiot. He has sang differently because he has no choice. He can't do all of what he could do.
I'm not knocking him but being honest with myself.
i guess im an idiot then
thanks for calling all of us idiots, ass.
its opinion.
screaming isnt a range in my opinion. if you heard every show from 91-94...you'd hear how inconsisten ed was...but you dont, you hear the highly circulated boots. was his voice powerful?yea, im not arguing that. but now you heare very single show....
but, what do i know...im an idiot!
I consider range being what you can do with your voice and Ed has screamed words so I consider it part of his range.
Point is. Ed could do everything then what he can do now with his voice. Now he can't do a lot of what he could do then. That equals less range now.
This isn't really an opinion. Listen and it is clear cut.
You can have the opinion that you like how he sings today and that is fine, but it is not a matter of opinion regarding his voice losing vocal range.
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We also have a tonne more shows to make opinions on and therefore, critique. There have been a few instances where EV sings like he used to...one example is when he's shouting/singing the war part in the showbox 'Daughter'...that was vintage Ed. While I don't know that I would say his voice is better than now than in the early days, I just think he knows how to use it better. Screaming full out on a tour cannot be good for the vocal cords. For me...2003 EV was awesome
We also have a tonne more shows to make opinions on and therefore, critique. There have been a few instances where EV sings like he used to...one example is when he's shouting/singing the war part in the showbox 'Daughter'...that was vintage Ed. While I don't know that I would say his voice is better than now than in the early days, I just think he knows how to use it better. Screaming full out on a tour cannot be good for the vocal cords. For me...2003 EV was awesome
What do you mean by use it better? Didn't he use it to the best of it's ability back in the day? What about the growl and sweet high notes he hit on the Yellow ledbetter improv or the black unplugged? He can't do that as well now.
Listen to Down, Ed tries hard to make his voice growl in that song and it works in the studio but live he can't do it. I've heard version of him trying and it sounds to forced.
What about Blood from the Showbox? That sounded terrible but good for a guy who has been smoking and screming for 10 years. I give him credit and yes do love his voice but I think people are being duped. Ed sings the way he does now because he really has no other choice. It's not like he scrapped his old ways it's just that he can't do it.
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Fat yet Eager wrote:
sward wrote:
We also have a tonne more shows to make opinions on and therefore, critique. There have been a few instances where EV sings like he used to...one example is when he's shouting/singing the war part in the showbox 'Daughter'...that was vintage Ed. While I don't know that I would say his voice is better than now than in the early days, I just think he knows how to use it better. Screaming full out on a tour cannot be good for the vocal cords. For me...2003 EV was awesome
What do you mean by use it better? Didn't he use it to the best of it's ability back in the day? What about the growl and sweet high notes he hit on the Yellow ledbetter improv or the black unplugged? He can't do that as well now.
Listen to Down, Ed tries hard to make his voice growl in that song and it works in the studio but live he can't do it. I've heard version of him trying and it sounds to forced.
What about Blood from the Showbox? That sounded terrible but good for a guy who has been smoking and screming for 10 years. I give him credit and yes do love his voice but I think people are being duped. Ed sings the way he does now because he really has no other choice. It's not like he scrapped his old ways it's just that he can't do it.
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he is, by his own accounts, a better singer now. He doesn't have the fierce edge as much anymore, but that is why his voice was shot in 95'. He is more in control of his voice now and no, he could not do in 92' what he does now with the newer songs.
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he sounded really good in 2003 but he can't seem to hit high notes anymore and it turns into this ugly choked off sound. And on a lot of the old really intense songs like porch or alive he does sound a bit lazy at time. But I also feel like there is more variability in the singing these days. He has more ability even if he doesn't have the range he used to. He can still shred songs if he wants to, it seems to be more of a choice now. For people who worry that he can't sing like he used to in terms of intensity listen to Know Your Rights and Free World from Uniondale 03.
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