Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:00 pm Posts: 19826 Location: Alone in a corridor
Dear RM folks,
everytime we make these best-PJ-show-ever lists, I see the second Atlanta show from 1994 coming back in almost every list and a while ago I started wondering how that was possible. After hours of thought I started thinking it might be because it is probably the most widespread early PJ bootleg out there. And to be honest, it is a pretty good show, but if you ask me, there are others, also from 1994, who are definitely as good, if not better. The good folks over at sidewalkcrusaders give us the opportunity these days to download one of these in my opinion better shows. May I present you: St Petersburg 94:
03/29/94 - Bayfront Arena: St. Petersburg, FL
set: Rearviewmirror, Whipping, Go, Animal, Dissident, Even Flow, Why Go, Jeremy, Glorified G, Daughter/(ABitW-II)/(WMA), Blood, Last Exit, Black, Alive, Porch/(Dirty Frank)
enc 1: Sonic Reducer, Not for You, Elderly Woman, Rockin' in the Free World
enc 2: Indifference
enc 3: Throw Your Arms Around Me
You may or may not know that I'm not that big a fan of the early PJ. I won't say I don't like it, but I prefer everything else above these years. But still... this bootleg has ever since hearing it for the first time grabbed me by the balls and never let go. Some of the highlights are songs that you will find very hard to find versions better than what you'll hear on this bootleg: Go - Blood - Jeremy - Alive - PORCH - Not for you. May I stress out that Porch is really "fuckin insane".
Anyway, if you know this show, you'll probably agree with me. If you don't, please, give it a chance. You can find it here:
i agree i am from st. pete i was there, but the bayfront auditorium is no longer--it was never an amphitheater -FYI
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i think the main reason why people like atlanta 94 and zurich 92 is cause the recordings are so clear (soundbard and what not) i was thinking if there were soundboard recordings of other shows would they be classed as better than atlanta.... if you get what im trying to say
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tommyphillips wrote:
i think the main reason why people like atlanta 94 and zurich 92 is cause the recordings are so clear (soundbard and what not) i was thinking if there were soundboard recordings of other shows would they be classed as better than atlanta.... if you get what im trying to say
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asprivilegedasawhore wrote:
This show is top notch. One of my favorites.
me too. Excellent choice Anugs. It's a top ten show for me.
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i bought a boot of this even though alive had skips through it. it definitely is a great recording. the second disc had the soundcheck. horrible quality but still cool to listen to.
but i saw them for the first time a little over a week later so for me, that show was the holy grail of the 94 tour along with atlanta (obviously), and the finale at the paramount in nueva york.
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Angus wrote:
Dear RM folks,
everytime we make these best-PJ-show-ever lists, I see the second Atlanta show from 1994 coming back in almost every list and a while ago I started wondering how that was possible. After hours of thought I started thinking it might be because it is probably the most widespread early PJ bootleg out there. And to be honest, it is a pretty good show, but if you ask me, there are others, also from 1994, who are definitely as good, if not better. The good folks over at sidewalkcrusaders give us the opportunity these days to download one of these in my opinion better shows. May I present you: St Petersburg 94:
03/29/94 - Bayfront Arena: St. Petersburg, FL
set: Rearviewmirror, Whipping, Go, Animal, Dissident, Even Flow, Why Go, Jeremy, Glorified G, Daughter/(ABitW-II)/(WMA), Blood, Last Exit, Black, Alive, Porch/(Dirty Frank) enc 1: Sonic Reducer, Not for You, Elderly Woman, Rockin' in the Free World enc 2: Indifference enc 3: Throw Your Arms Around Me
You may or may not know that I'm not that big a fan of the early PJ. I won't say I don't like it, but I prefer everything else above these years. But still... this bootleg has ever since hearing it for the first time grabbed me by the balls and never let go. Some of the highlights are songs that you will find very hard to find versions better than what you'll hear on this bootleg: Go - Blood - Jeremy - Alive - PORCH - Not for you. May I stress out that Porch is really "fuckin insane".
Anyway, if you know this show, you'll probably agree with me. If you don't, please, give it a chance. You can find it here:
I was at this and the Miami show the night before. Miami was even more intense, one of those shows you never forget. Both of them are spectacular.
Also, the MEsa show from 1993, though not on any "top ten lists", though admittedly I never check, is also amazing, one of my all time favorites. If and when the other 93-94 shows get released, I believe some of the unsurfaced shows will blow some of your minds (Detroit comes to mind from looking at the setlist). They're great now, but for those of us who were around for those shows, they'll hold a special place in our hearts.
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:00 pm Posts: 19826 Location: Alone in a corridor
Bump for the greatest Porch they ever played. Also, no Porch that they'll ever play will be better than this one. No Porch that they'll ever play will even come close to this. Just insane.
(In my journey through PJ history in preparation of Copenhagen/Werchter, I'm now at 1994 )
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:00 pm Posts: 5364 Location: Wrigley Field Gender: Male
bump a thread, bump a line...
I'm going to chime in here on a few topics:
1) the best two Porches are '94 St. Petes and '94 Atlanta. Pete wins if you like Eddie's adlibbing, Atlanta wins if you like the band's music/jamming
2) this is a great show, I do not disagree, but even if it was soundboard, I do not think it would beat Atlanta, because the band's peformance in Atlanta was ON like no other (I chalk that up to them being in the studio and coming up on the "home stretch" of the tour).
3) the setlists, in the Atlanta show, you literally can feel how the setlist was structured in stages/segments and the band carried it off so well, with even Ed talking at the appropriate time. St. Petes doesn't possess that kind of setlist.
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