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 Post subject: What determines anothers political position....
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:00 am 
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....according to you?

I bring this topic up after several people have taken it upon themselves to make innacurate assumptions about others, whichlater explode into hyperbole.

ie: You are a republican, fucking fascist you brought us into this war.
You are a democrat, fucking pussy, its all Clinton's fault.
You are a libertarian, fucking what the fuck stop wasting my time.
You are a communist, I am part of the 95% of the population who lack
the capacity to accurately to describethis as an institution, but fuck
you anyway.



I am not at all interested in regurgitated opinions of pundits, I would like to simply hear 4 or five issues and your positions on them (hopefully with some justification).

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deathbyflannel wrote:
....according to you?

I bring this topic up after several people have taken it upon themselves to make innacurate assumptions about others, whichlater explode into hyperbole.

ie: You are a republican, fucking fascist you brought us into this war.
You are a democrat, fucking pussy, its all Clinton's fault.
You are a libertarian, fucking what the fuck stop wasting my time.
You are a communist, I am part of the 95% of the population who lack
the capacity to accurately to describethis as an institution, but fuck
you anyway.



I am not at all interested in regurgitated opinions of pundits, I would like to simply hear 4 or five issues and your positions on them (hopefully with some justification).


Lets play a clasification game!
I am not anti-war
I am pro-death penalty
I am pro-choice
I am anti- Patriot Act
I am pro- capitalism
I am anti- monopoly


What am I?!


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I don't quite understand this thread. Are you asking what assumptions we might make regarding certain political labels?


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Green Habit wrote:
I don't quite understand this thread. Are you asking what assumptions we might make regarding certain political labels?


Not exactly.

edzeppe was pretty close, I dont want your assumptions based on someones party affiliation. I was hoping someone would list several concepts they feel strongly about which helps explain their position.

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deathbyflannel wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
I don't quite understand this thread. Are you asking what assumptions we might make regarding certain political labels?


Not exactly.

edzeppe was pretty close, I dont want your assumptions based on someones party affiliation. I was hoping someone would list several concepts they feel strongly about which helps explain their position.


i like games!


can we play stratego next please?


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edzeppe wrote:
i like games!


can we play stratego next please?


I prefer risk, and I cannot asess your affiliation based on your previously stated positions.

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deathbyflannel wrote:
edzeppe wrote:
i like games!


can we play stratego next please?


I prefer risk, and I cannot asess your affiliation based on your previously stated positions.


I am also Anti-Union (they have outlived their usefulness).
I am anti- censorship (to an extent- I thought Janet Jackson's breast was overhyped, but also a valid complaint, because parents had no reason to expect it).



(risk takes too many people to a be a lot of fun.. and we seem to be the only 2 here)


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I'm not a big fan of the federal government.

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Man in Black wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the federal government.


That makes you.... "most reasonable people"...

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I want the Middle East to fall, entirely. And I want us to be there when it does.

I want tax reform, broad, long term tax reform.

I want energy reform.

I want AIDS funding to Africa to disappear. The UN should open a worldwide AIDS fund, and we should donate to that and that alone.

The rich should be taxed the same as the poor.

Abortion in the third trimester should be banned.

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I want the Middle East to fall, entirely. And I want us to be there when it does.

I want tax reform, broad, long term tax reform.

I want energy reform.

I want AIDS funding to Africa to disappear. The UN should open a worldwide AIDS fund, and we should donate to that and that alone.

The rich should be taxed the same as the poor.

Abortion in the third trimester should be banned.


You are a republican.

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Health care
Social security
Ethnic diversity
Gay marriage
Allowing abortion
Gun control (or, for that matter, the complete banning of)

Against:
Preemptive war
Flat-tax
Religion as a basis for ethics and law
Censorship
Death Penalty (For the reason that it's impossible to completely eliminate the chance that an innocent person is executed)

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ill follow cerbs way of listing

im for

death penalty
abortions up to a certain point
universal health care
closing our borders
spending way less abroad and concentrating it more at home
giving police more rights/lessening the restrictions they have now

im against

people bitching their rights to privacy are invaded, if you have nothing to hide, then whats it matter who knows what
the US being called upon to help other nations and criticized when the US doesnt, but then being told to mind our own fucking business

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Cerebrosus wrote:
For:
Health care
Social security
Ethnic diversity
Gay marriage
Allowing abortion
Gun control (or, for that matter, the complete banning of)

Against:
Preemptive war
Flat-tax
Religion as a basis for ethics and law
Censorship
Death Penalty (For the reason that it's impossible to completely eliminate the chance that an innocent person is executed)


Left of center liberal.

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Peeps wrote:
ill follow cerbs way of listing

im for

death penalty
abortions up to a certain point
universal health care
closing our borders
spending way less abroad and concentrating it more at home
giving police more rights/lessening the restrictions they have now

im against

people bitching their rights to privacy are invaded, if you have nothing to hide, then whats it matter who knows what
the US being called upon to help other nations and criticized when the US doesnt, but then being told to mind our own fucking business


moderate conservative.

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Hey, DBF. I thought this thread was about ELIMINATING labels. :?

FOR:

Wealth redistribution through taxation to fund social and educational programs.
Gay marriage.
Extensive international cooperation.
Science over religion IN EVERY CASE.
Expansive interpretation of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Environmentally friendly energy policies.

AGAINST:

War on Drugs.
Unilateralism.
Mixing of church and state.
Mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines.
Religious Fundamentalism of all flavors.


That's a good start.

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Abortion in any circumstance
Gay marriage
Gun control
Universal health care
Higher taxes on the wealthy
Fiscal responsibility
Environment
Affirmative action

AGAINST:
Censorship in all forms
Religion
Big government
Pre-emptive war
Drilling in ANWR
Death penalty
Privatizing Social Security
The PATRIOT Act
Incarceration for non-violent drug offenders

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StyrofoamChicken wrote:
FOR:
Abortion in any circumstance
Gay marriage
Gun control
Universal health care
Higher taxes on the wealthy
Fiscal responsibility
Environment
Affirmative action

AGAINST:
Censorship in all forms
Religion
Big government
Pre-emptive war
Drilling in ANWR
Death penalty
Privatizing Social Security
The PATRIOT Act
Incarceration for non-violent drug offenders



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Look at all the things you're for and then you say you're against big government.

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This appears to be the "winning" way to form my answer

The things I'm for:
Death Penalty
More states' rights/less federal government intrusions
2nd Amendment
Environment (within reason)

The stuff I'm against:
Gun control/gun registration in all its forms - a disgusting way for the gov't to be in complete and utter control with no fear of citizen reprisal
The U.N. being in the U.S.
Basically just the U.N. in general
Abortion (with a few exceptions - don't those always pop up?)
War on Marijuana (not cause I partake, but because it's a waste of time, money, and resources/manpower - outlawing hard stuff I have no problem with)
Out-of-control/erroneous law suits ("Well, I broke into his house and hurt my ankle. I want $250,000!)
Federal income taxes
Pearl Jam not going on tour when I damn well want them to!

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punkdavid wrote:
Hey, DBF. I thought this thread was about ELIMINATING labels. :?



I tried that at first and no one cared to reply, so I derailed my own thread, thanks for putting it back on the tracks. 8)

For:
Flat Federal Income Tax
Stem Cell Research
Seperation of Church and State, where science takes precedence
Education reform (NOT "no child left behind)
Absolute freedom of expression in regards to language and literature
Electoral College


Against:
Socialized Healthcare
Social Security as a means of retirement
The Welfare State
Gun Control
School Vouchers
Current Defense spending
Affirmative Action

I have no discernable opinion on:
Gay Marriage (I think its absurd but I dont see any reason for it to be illegal either)
Abortion (fluctuates day to day)

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