i dont know, weather he cheated or not, he has always seemed to be one of the more lovable kinda players, and i still like him. he may not get elected to the HOF, but his 600 is pretty big, im much more excited about that then i am about what bonds is close to doing.

anyone else see it?

Congrats Sammy, i still love you.

I'm positive he doped. But for some reason, he's still likable to me. It's a conundrum.

and against the Cubs. I became really disappointed with him over the years with the corked bat and likely 'roids usage, but as a Cubs fan, part of me will always love him. I can understand why many people now hate him, but I have many memories watching him play as I grew up. He and Mark Grace (my favorite player of all time) will always be special to me.

same for me, im pretty sure he did at some point, but he is one of the few that it didnt effect my thoughts of him.

id love to get to see him in a homerun derby again

no hablo the english

besides speculation, there hasnt been one shred of hard evidence linking Sammy to Steroids. Im not saying he did or did not, but all these other guys we have stuff on that more or less proves them guilty. All we have on Sammy is his sudden bout of forgetfullness of the english language.

fuck him, sammy is a fucking joke. he isnt even one of the best 200 players ever. he hit alot of homers on roids, he didnt do much else. i hope he tears his acl doing one of his stupid ass "home run hops"

His body type completely changing doesn't qualify as a shred, huh?

a lot of guys bodys changed, doesnt mean a 100% steroid positive

with Barry we have the book, Big Mac we got Andro, Canceco proudly admits it. but i said HARD evidence in Sammys case. theres no positive test, his name is not in any book or on any court papers, If he did do steriods, hes managed to avoid that stuff better than anyone ever.

Mostly because he conviently forgot he's been in this country forever when they started asking him questions and he answered with how you say.... my ingrish is no so good....

The corked bat was evidence enough. He and Big Mac are the reason Barry went out and got the stuff from Balco.

Barry is 50 times the ball player that Sosa could ever hope to be.

He juiced. He juiced and corked. If we are going to speculate and kill bonds, we have to speculate and kill Sammy.

At least Barry was a great all around player most of his career. Pretty amazing what Sosa did from 98 until oh around the time people started paying attention to steroids.

Amen! Any player who outright admits the only reason he wants to continue to play is for a personal record i have zero respect for. Fuck the love of the game or hell, even a championship. none of that matters to this chest thumping asshole.

before 98 Sammy had seasons of 33HR/93RBI, 36/119, 40/110, and 36/119 again and hit over .300 in all of them. so its not like he was some bum before the steroids era

plus I gotta believe the huge HR numbers from 98-a few years ago were not only influenced by steroids, but by juiced baseballs, which we all know MLB were using after the strike to win fans back. there were guys hiting homers left and right, tiny little leadoff guys and #8 hitters, who no way were juicing for a while there.

how was the corked bat evidence enough? you think that proves he did steroids? or are you saying you think he used a corked bat to hit all those homers. or do you just mean it shows what a cheater he is

I think the corked bat was a one time thing, not one game but a one time period that couldnt have lasted more than a couple weeks at the most. and he still didnt manage to hit many HRs wit hit. Ive gotten to hit with a few corked bats (crazy friend who got bored in woodshop class) and none of them lasted more than a few swings. so unless he had a huge supply and used each one 2-3 ABs only, I doubt theres much to the corking.

and what About Albert Belle? should we assume he was using a corked bat for a good part of his career?

or possibly the single most embarassing corker of all time: Wilton Guererro! remember when his bat shattered and instead of running to first he ran around the infield grass gathering up the pieces of cork? that was awesome

the corked bat bothered me more than any alleged steroid use....

that said, I don't see how he doesn't get into the HOF.

I was at Camden Yards for the game when Sammy came back after that suspension and some guy ran on the field and threw cork at him

yeah I mean it just shows that he has no problem with cheating. There is no doubt in my mind that Sosa used as well as Mcgwire. The steroids really don't bother me that much to tell you the truth. Baseball is all about cheating or just finding ways to get an advantage. I seriously doubt he used cork very often especially when he was at his strongest, but juiced balls aside are we supposed to believe the twenty years before 1998 there just weren't players that were that strong, or had that kind of skill? I mean I remember being amazed when Cecil Fielder hit 50 HR's in the early 90's and I thought it was incredible he hit it off the roof of the stadium. Now it's commonplace.

Even non illicit workout regimen is amazing now. I don't for one blame the guys for juicing to make the kind of money they are, hell I have enjoyed the titanic home runs too... It's funny we kill steroid abusers and have other cheaters in the hall of fame already filed under gamesmanship.

What turns me off is Sammy using roids, hitting a bunch of homeruns and loving the fame of it, then he gets off and starts sucking, and then he's all upset with the world like he's supposed to get paid millions on reputation or something. Mcgwire crying to congress. Hell just don't go speak at all. I don't need a test. Hell they don't test for HGH now either but I don't know if there is a good test at all..

The whole idea that baseball is some pure game or should be sacred is a joke.

Golf isn't even pure anymore.

600 is an amazing number for a career. It just makes people like Willie Mays, Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron that much more astounding to me. How unbelivable it must have been to watch them play.

The only link I have to that time I guess is my dad telling me how awesome it was going to double headers at Atlanta Fulton County Stadium sitting in the outfield and hearing the ridiculous pop of the leather when Koufax pitched.

I hear ya, E. Im going to the HOF next weekend with the old man, and every time I go its something special to see all the stuff from what was definately a better era in baseball. sad too

The best thing he gave to baseball was the "sosa hop" and that is it.

First you're looking for a shred, now you're looking for a 100% steroid positive. It must be a pleasure deciding where to go eat dinner on a Friday night with you.


Actually, there was the incident where he had $20k in cash stolen from him at a hotel. But I'm sure that was just for the strip club nearby.