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Two things made this movie awesome:
1. The ending - I never expected El Duce to be Irish. Was he related to them?
That scene when they're putting the pennies on their friend and saying the prayer, where he comes in and completes it - excellent.
"And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee, power hath descended forth from thy hand, so that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command. We shall flow a river forth unto Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine Patre, et filili, et spiritus sanctus."
Supurb.
2. Dafoe's hilarious character was the performance of the fucking film. Enough said.
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1. The ending - I never expected El Duce to be Irish. Was he related to them?
the way i read into it, he was their father. remember, they told rocco he couldnt recite the prayer because it was a family prayer, well when el duce comes into to kill them and they say the prayer for rocco, he finishes the prayer, that only their family would know
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Peeps wrote:
Merrill Stubing wrote:
Two things made this movie awesome:
1. The ending - I never expected El Duce to be Irish. Was he related to them?
the way i read into it, he was their father. remember, they told rocco he couldnt recite the prayer because it was a family prayer, well when el duce comes into to kill them and they say the prayer for rocco, he finishes the prayer, that only their family would know
Yeah, true. And in the deleted scenes, the one where they are talking to their mom (watch that one, it's hilarious), they do mention their dad either running off or being in prison or something like that.
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Merrill Stubing wrote:
Peeps wrote:
Merrill Stubing wrote:
Two things made this movie awesome:
1. The ending - I never expected El Duce to be Irish. Was he related to them?
the way i read into it, he was their father. remember, they told rocco he couldnt recite the prayer because it was a family prayer, well when el duce comes into to kill them and they say the prayer for rocco, he finishes the prayer, that only their family would know
Yeah, true. And in the deleted scenes, the one where they are talking to their mom (watch that one, it's hilarious), they do mention their dad either running off or being in prison or something like that.
Yes, he was their father. I guess you missed it, but Sean Patrick Flanery's Conner called him "Da..." when they were in their room after escaping Papa Joe's home and right before the trial. And yes, even if he hadn't referred to him as such, you could figure it out from the fact that the prayer is a family prayer and El Duce holds their faces in his hands when they are united.
I just love that this movie came out in one city, either Boston or New York, and stayed in the theater for about a half a week. No one embraced the idea of this gay cop played superbly by Willem Defoe. It's been a huge hit, however, in DVD/Video sales. I bought it on DVD when I got my player, and I love it. It's not necessarily the most fascinating work of film ever made, but it's a good, entertaining film, with some great acting on Willem Defoe's part.
This was one of Defoe's best roles, and he's one of my favorite actors. I think very often of the scene where he is investigating the slaughterhouse where El Duce first appears. Amidst the simultaneously playing violent scenes of gun battles and threatening music, he stands out, holding his gun up in the air in anguish. He was a very interesting character to begin with, because, as illustrated here, he actually got involved emotionally in the crimes he was investigating. Willem Defoe breathed into that spirit, and the result was a very intriguing fictional character.
For me, the strongest and best parts of the film were Willem Defoe's performance and the score.
The music of the film beats into you through every scene. The credits roll through a traditional bagpipe melody, the more emotional scenes hit a shreek of terror, and the movie is led by the eery chants, the main theme. It was mesmerizing mentally.
I really enjoy this film, it's definitely a good flick to see for anyone who hasn't.
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One other thing I wanted to add was how much I loved the old bartender whose bar gets closed by the Russians, the old man with Tourrette's. I felt so sorry for him, but he was so cute when he was up there.
Apparently, it's cutesy when someone spits out, "Fuck! Ass!" every so often...
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stip wrote:
All this baseball talk makes me wonder where Meg is.
here was a movie i wanted to like because my students talked it up so much and said it was better than snatch, which is a favorite of mine.
i hated this movie. i mean, it had its moments and the 2 main characters emanated coolness, but it seemed like some high school kids wrote the script. i'm convinced they made defoe's character gay just so he could call his boyfriend a fag. weak.
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faggot.
and I love this movie. I used to have a gif of that cat getting shot
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