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 Post subject: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:40 am 
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mods, how about a poll here


which do you think would be better for america(ns)?

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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Health Care. I think that the loan system of the american universties work quite well. It forces the person to work hard.

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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How much of an education for free, Peeps? Nowadays, a bachelor's degree is almost equivalent to a high school diploma 20 years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
How much of an education for free, Peeps? Nowadays, a bachelor's degree is almost equivalent to a high school diploma 20 years ago.


i disagree

but we are talking free bachelors. im not sure if other countries do the free masters or phd, if they do, then lets include that

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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If I absolutely had to pick one, free education.

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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obviously free education

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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lets go mr database/sql mod, lets get a poll going

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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Peeps wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
How much of an education for free, Peeps? Nowadays, a bachelor's degree is almost equivalent to a high school diploma 20 years ago.


i disagree

but we are talking free bachelors. im not sure if other countries do the free masters or phd, if they do, then lets include that


Frank's right, pretty much everyone who is in the business field needs a graduate degree if he/she wants to be competitive, according a few teachers and most of my friends.


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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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This is actually a very, very tough question, but a good one. I'm gonna have to go with health care.

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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I mean...all the basic schooling is already free...

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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Anybody care to provide reasoning?

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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Education. I have more drive than others so even in a free higher education place I'd still make sure I'm better educated and a have amore desirable skill set than others. From there I can look after my own healthcare needs.


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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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spudsgirl wrote:
Anybody care to provide reasoning?


Functionality. People would be better off if their health care is assured rather than if they were educated. I believe if you strip a human down to his/her core need, it's going to be about survival.

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Education. I have more drive than others so even in a free higher education place I'd still make sure I'm better educated and a have amore desirable skill set than others. From there I can look after my own healthcare needs.


But the question was what would be more beneficial to America, not you personally.

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spudsgirl wrote:
Anybody care to provide reasoning?


Teach a man to fish...

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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spudsgirl wrote:
Anybody care to provide reasoning?



i figured id be like g_v, start a controversial thread, then never post in it my reasons :)

or im waiting on a poll to be put up

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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I'm going to say health care, we are paying through the nose for both here but I seem to whinge more about health care than my uni debt. I can't comment on the American system but I have found myself not seeking medical attention when I need to because I can't afford it. My dad was also made to wait for cancer surgery because he was not a private patient. The state of our elderly, the length of out waiting lists in hospitals as well as general access to GP's leads me to believe that health care in Australia is in crisis.

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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1 nad short wrote:
I'm going to say health care, we are paying through the nose for both here but I seem to whinge more about health care than my uni debt. I can't comment on the American system but I have found myself not seeking medical attention when I need to because I can't afford it. My dad was also made to wait for cancer surgery because he was not a private patient. The state of our elderly, the length of out waiting lists in hospitals as well as general access to GP's leads me to believe that health care in Australia is in crisis.

And we have free health care...

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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1 nad short wrote:
I'm going to say health care, we are paying through the nose for both here but I seem to whinge more about health care than my uni debt. I can't comment on the American system but I have found myself not seeking medical attention when I need to because I can't afford it. My dad was also made to wait for cancer surgery because he was not a private patient. The state of our elderly, the length of out waiting lists in hospitals as well as general access to GP's leads me to believe that health care in Australia is in crisis.

And we have free health care...


we have subsidised health care, we do not have free health care. I pay money to medicare, I pay for private health and then I pay again to visit a doctor.

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Health Care or Free Education....pick one
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i went with free education, cause with the right education, you can find a job that will offer you health benefits

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