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 Post subject: Music Tournament: McParadigm is your winner!
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Badradio16: Unsteady on My Mind (duet with his cousin)
McParadigm: Scab in the Line (with the Failed Catholics)


Unsteady (On My Mind )
On my mind...all the time
On my mind...
It feels so real...it feels so right
So right

I never have been one to worry
But the future's never been this blurry
I see the way you look at me
And in your eyes is where I long to be
But things are moving much too quickly
And I've realized that love's not what I need
Not what I need...

Baby, oh baby, oh baby
I'm sick of those maybes
I need to know (need to know)
Because I can't ignore the signs around me
It surrounds my brain
And I can't explain...
What I'm saying, where I'm going,
sometimes never knowing at all
Now it's hard to stand...I seem to slip,
but I know that I've got to loosen my grip

On my mind...all the time
It feels so real...it feels so right
So right

I'm losing sleep and I feel so empty
I wait in silence for the pain to hit me
This situation is so unsteady
The train's approaching but I'm not ready
I'm not ready to lose you...
The thought of losing you is driving me crazy
So crazy...crazy

So crazy...crazy

On my mind...all the time
(So crazy)
On my mind...
(So crazy)
It feels so real...it feels so right
So right

(On my mind...all the time)

Scab In The Line

There's a scab in the line.

People used to sing these songs just for fun.
Now you've gotta have the money, if you wanna sing along.
Look to hell above, and heaven down below.
Let them tell you what you already know: that...

There's a scab in the line.

John missed the notes, but he kept an even time.
All that's essential is invisible to the eye.
Perched on his instrument, scanning for a kill,
he knew that silence was the finest of his skills.

Shh.

We play our songs like a heated arms race,
bury the bodies with an even poker face.
We move the feeling. We build the bugs.
Spend more on music than on perscription drugs, but...

There's a scab in the line.




Final Rounds
Theobbster: Ghosts of the Fallen
Leopold: The Start
Badradio16: Devil's Day
Windedsailor: Open Ears
McParadigm: Up To Here
Preternatural Pete: Roll Over
Raziel: Wave Song
Leopold: Middle 8
Johnny Carwash: As the Trap Closes
Badradio16: Today
McParadigm: Asking for Water, Begging for Food
Preternatural Pete: Expecting
Winded Sailor: Selling Short
McParadigm: The Arms and Angels of Capeheart Road
Leopold: Gibralter as a Girl
Preternatural Pete: I Will Always Let You Down
McParadigm: Let the Run Water Run
McParadigm: The Athens of Calabria
Badradio16: Transitions


Round IV
Theobster: Leviathan
Badradio16: Stamped and Sealed
McParadigm: Ninguna Mierta
Leopold: Killing Time
Mandy: Hate to Cry
Windedsailor: Head First
Raizel: Headunderground
Oneproudmonkey: Origin of War
Preternatural Pete: The Bottom Drawer Reprise
Csblackb: Second Wave Lullaby
Johnny Carwash (Savin Ill): De Facto
Denverapolis: Dark December (denver is on lead guitar)


Round III
In An Angel: Raziel
Chien Battu (cowering dog): Mastaflatch
Oneproudmonkey: Consqeuece
Theobbster: Omega
Oneproudmonkey: Dreambrothers
Echoes: Mammon's lament/Avarice Ball
Preternatural Pete: Do It/Duet
Corky: Heartbroken for the Heartless
whygodeep: Life
Csblackb: Divination Divide
Mikeyisgod (with porchball): Your Paramour
Denverapolis: Nothing Changes
Badabing: Stay the Night
JohnnyCarwash: Oxygen




Round II
Raziel: Cure
Echoes: Razorbeak
Southp: Infectious
Preternatural Pete: Fogged Windows
Evvo: Stoner
Csblackb: Retaining Wall
Denverapolis: three feels good
Adamdude: Pilatus
Badradio16: Dormant
Mastaflach: Jean St. Guy
The Big So-So: Queen of Diamonds
Badabing: Never Gonna Lose That Girl
Corky: Thursday with a View
Leopold: Man of Leisure Part II
When Will You Tell Me I Miss You: Whygodeep
These Plans: McParadigm
Mandy: Different Way From Home
Mikeyisgod: Not Your Man
Lets get married: Winded Sailor
Slow Down: Johnny Carwash (Savin' Ill)



Round I
Badradio16: No Release
Mastaflach: Matières Familiales
Raziel: Water
Oneproudmonkey: Hiding From Me
Echoes; Planet of War
Theobster: Pulse
Leopold: Man of Leisure
Southp: Notion
Corky: An Untitled Rain
Preternatural Pete: Collateral
csblackb: Nothing Elusive
McParadigm: I Ain't Got the Blues
Evvo: Paper Planes
Whygodeep: She's Vanished Again
dkfan9: Emo LOL
Mikeyisgod: the Joker
Mandy: Decide
Adamdude: Within the Noise
Winded Sailor: Wreck Supply
The Big So-So: Patroclus
Johnny Carwash: Full Circle
Badabing: Love Me Tenderly



Note that unless someone steps to the plate there will be no formal archive for this beyond people saving songs they like

Rules in thread II
Bracket in post III

the rules thread can be found here

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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Rules of the tournament:

1. You need to be one of the participants in the song that is submitted. Please indicate who you are if there are multiple artists

2. The song has to be an original composition

3. Please include lyrics in your submission if at all possible

4. Rounds start at 9am (or close to it) the day of the match and last 24 hours.

5. Submissions must be pmd or e-mailed (stip9@comcast.net) to me by 8:30am the day of your match. Preferably sooner

6. This tournament will move fast. There will not be breaks between rounds so interest does not die. Make sure you have something to submit

7. Twice in the tournaments people get byes to make the brackets fit. Badabing got the first bye since he won the last tournament. The rest of it is random

8. Twice in the tournament we will have three way matches. In these cases the loser is the person with the lowest total

9. Voting will be done in poll form except for the double matches, which will be done in the threads

10. Please comment on the entries if you wish, but keep feedback and comments friendly and constructive

11. To enter a song PM me a link to it (via yousendit or the like) or e-mail me the song (stip9@comcast.net) and I'll upload it

12. You will need a NEW song for each round

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Winded Sailor vs The Big So-So
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Main Bracket

1. 9/4
Badradio16 vs Buffalohead (forfeit)
2. 9/5
Raziel vs Mastaflacht (15-12)
3. 9/6
Echoes vs Oneproudmonkey (13-7)
4. 9/7
100pacer vs theobster
5. 9/10
Leopold vs Southp (10-9)
6. 9/11
Corky vs Preternatural Pete (7-5)
7. 9/12
McParadigm vs csblackB (9-8)
8. 9/13
Evvo vs Whygodeep (11-9)
9. 9/14
Mikeyisgod vs Dkfan9 (13-11)
10. 9/17
Adamdude vs Mandy (11-9)
11. 9/18
Windedsailor vs the Big so-so (14-2)
12. 9/19
Badabing vs Johnny Carwash


Second Chance Bracket Round I

13. 9/20
Buffalohed vs Raziel
14. 9/21
Echoes vs 100pacer
15. 9/24
Southp vs preternatural pete (9-8)
16. 9/25
csblack8 vs evvo (12-10)
17. 9/26
Deverapolis (in for dkfan9) vs Adamdude (17-3)

The Big so-so vs badabing (12-1)

Main Bracket Round II

18. 9/27
Badradio16 vs Mastaflatch (9-7)
19. 9/28
Oneproudmonkey vs Theobbster (9-3)
20. 10/1
Leopold vs Corky (12-4)
21. 10/2
Mcparadigm vs whygodeep (12-4)
22. 10/3
Mikeyisgod vs Mandy (11-4)
23. 10/4
Winded Sailor vs Johnny Carwash (9-5)

Second Chance Round II

24. 10/5
Raziel vs Mastaflach [8-6]
25. 10/8
Echoes vs oneproudmonkey (12-2)
26. 10/9
Preternatural Pete vs corky (10-5)
27. 10/10
csblackb vs whygodeep (9-6)
28. 10/11
Denverapolis vs Mikeyisgod (11-9)


New Scheudle!
29. 10/29
Badabing vs Johnny Carwash (8-7)

Main Bracket Round III

30. 10/30
badradio16 vs theoobster (10-5)
31. 10/31
Leopold vs McParadigm (11-8)
32. 11/1
Mandy vs Winded Sailor (7-5)


Second Chance Bracket III

33. 11/2
Raziel vs Oneproudmonkey (17-2)
34. 11/5
Preternatural Pete vs Csblackb (9-4)
35. 11/6
Denverapolis vs Johnny Carwash (10-8)

no match 11/7

36. 11/8
Theobbster vs Leopold (8-5)

mandy gets a bye


Main Bracket Semi Final
37. 11/9 to 11/11

McParadigm vs Badradio 16 vs Windedsailor. Vote twice and lowest song is eliminated (8-9-7)

Second Chance Bracket IV

38. 11/12
Raziel vs Preternatural Pete (12-1)
39. 11/13
Johnny Carwash vs Leopold (8-9)
40. 11/14
Mandy vs Windedsailor (mandy forfiets)

Main Bracket Final

41. 11/15-11/18
McParadigm vs Badradio16 (18-17)

Second Chance Bracket V

42. 11/19
Preternatural Pete vs Windedsailor (13-4)

43. 11/21-11/25
Leopold vs McParadigm (10-8)

Second Chance Finals

44. 11/26 to 11/27
Preternatural Pete vs McParadigm (11-9)

TOURNAMENT FINALS

44. 11/27-11/29
McParadigm vs Badradio16 (winner of 44 has to win twice)

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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And of course we're missing Buffalohed's song, getting us off to a rip roarin' start.

Buff has until 11am to get his song in before he forfeits. I'll wait until then to put a poll up

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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Poor Stip....he tries so hard and we always let him down!



edit: I can't open Badradios song on either my work or home pc.


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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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Nice way to kick off the tournament Badradio16--who are you in that song?

A few (hopefully) constructive comments.

I really like the guitar part that introduces the song. The acoustic guitar part reminded me of Angel, which threw me off for a little bit (but that's me, not a problem with the song)

I think you're cutting your vocals off a bit, especially during the chorus. You end each line ratching down the intensity in your voice, rather than driving it up--it makes the end of each lyric somewhat anti-climactic. you start those lyrics strongly so it sounds like you could really build to something special if you continuted to push yourself there.

Have you thought about alternating the lyrics in the second verse?

When will you be home?
Will I see your face again?
When will you be home?
Will I see your face again?

or even changing the lyrics slightly? Subtle changes help make lyrical repetition much stronger. You get the emphasis you wanted by repeating the lyric, but you still manage to suprise the listener. Something like

When will you be home?
Will I see your face again?
will you be coming home?
When will I see your face again?

Finally, you start with an evocative set of lyrics, and it seems like the song is going to be about the person (or persons) you are looking in on, but then it loses a little bit of focus. By the end i'm not quite sure who exactly you are singing about (the Brother reference in particular threw me off a bit)

Overall this song (and I suspect I'll be saying this a lot this tournament) made me wish I could sing/play/write. I think I'm gonna be jealous of a lot of you

Nice job Badradio :)

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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badabing wrote:
Poor Stip....he tries so hard and we always let him down!



edit: I can't open Badradios song on either my work or home pc.


Fuck!

Let me try agin.

Should have done a practice round yesterday :)

Hmmm--I was just able to download it. Is anyone else having bada's problem

Worst case scenario--e-mail me (stip9@comcast.net) and I can forward hsi song to you

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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stip wrote:
badabing wrote:
Poor Stip....he tries so hard and we always let him down!



edit: I can't open Badradios song on either my work or home pc.


Fuck!

Let me try agin.

Should have done a practice round yesterday :)

Hmmm--I was just able to download it. Is anyone else having bada's problem

Worst case scenario--e-mail me (stip9@comcast.net) and I can forward hsi song to you



duh.....default player was winamp....can't play wma....got it working...


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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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Good first entry. The acoustic guitar sounds really good. Your sound is probably at its best when you stop thinking about singing, it's off key and a little unstable in very few parts. I am probably the wrong person to say this, but I think the mixing could have been done a little different. Your voice is pretty quiet while the drums are rather loud, your solo near the end falls short of volume as well. I can see that you put some feeling into the lyrics but the music was, at least to me, the stronger side of the song.

Wow that sounds like a lot of criticism but I still liked your song. I guess I'm just bad at reviewing :P

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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pretty good song, i enjoyed it. i liked the voice a lot, reminded me of michael stipe. though one thing i noticed was that the chords kept reminding me of other songs. the beginning made me think of "falling down" by pj and i can agree with the "angel" call too. in the chorus, the voices in my head started singing the end of stairway to heaven. i think those chords are the same. i'm really not a big fan of the drums (which you'll see is not my strong point: aka drummachine) any way i think the strong points is the melody, didn't remind me of anything, very original. i'm not going to comment on the mixing, cause i'm assuming you're doing what you can, and i'm no whiz either

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the strong points is the melody, didn't remind me of anything, very original.

this is true

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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I don't know whether or not I should to do this so i'll put a spoiler in front of it and you can decide for yourself...but here is what the song means to me:

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The whole song is written from the perspective of a young boy whose older brother has gone away to war. The first verse is his observation of life without him and then the rest of the song is basically a prayer for his return. The big thing for me was to capture the feeling of helplessness and complete lack of control that families must feel when a loved one goes away to war. The cut off or "weak" vocals were a stylistic choice because I want it to seem as if the brother is building to a climax that cannot be reached because, no matter how hard he tries, he is ultimately powerless to bring his brother home.

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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just so I get my terms right in the future, what is the difference between rythem and melody?

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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BadRadio16 wrote:
I don't know whether or not I should to do this so i'll put a spoiler in front of it and you can decide for yourself...but here is what the song means to me:

Spoiler: show
The whole song is written from the perspective of a young boy whose older brother has gone away to war. The first verse is his observation of life without him and then the rest of the song is basically a prayer for his return. The big thing for me was to capture the feeling of helplessness and complete lack of control that families must feel when a loved one goes away to war. The cut off or "weak" vocals were a stylistic choice because I want it to seem as if the brother is building to a climax that cannot be reached because, no matter how hard he tries, he is ultimately powerless to bring his brother home.



Hmmm--then that definitely ties the rest of the song together, although I can't help but feel that if you didn't know that going in you would not necessarily figure it out from the song itself--a subtle hint or two might bring that into sharper focus

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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and I'm gonna call this a forfeit for Buff--although if you have a song and want to submit it as an exhibition please do

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 Post subject: Re: Original Music Tournament: Badradio vs Buffalohed
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not a bad song at all, though I didnt feel there was anything in it that would have me coming back for more. i did feel the drums felt a bit out of place in the mix though that might also be because all the bass notes were kept so short


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stip wrote:
BadRadio16 wrote:
I don't know whether or not I should to do this so i'll put a spoiler in front of it and you can decide for yourself...but here is what the song means to me:

Spoiler: show
The whole song is written from the perspective of a young boy whose older brother has gone away to war. The first verse is his observation of life without him and then the rest of the song is basically a prayer for his return. The big thing for me was to capture the feeling of helplessness and complete lack of control that families must feel when a loved one goes away to war. The cut off or "weak" vocals were a stylistic choice because I want it to seem as if the brother is building to a climax that cannot be reached because, no matter how hard he tries, he is ultimately powerless to bring his brother home.



Hmmm--then that definitely ties the rest of the song together, although I can't help but feel that if you didn't know that going in you would not necessarily figure it out from the song itself--a subtle hint or two might bring that into sharper focus
It's always hard for me to gage whether I am being too vague with the subject matter of the song. Since I know what the song means to me, it seems obvious to me what it is all about. This is great feedback and I appreciate you all listening.

Oh, and as I was thinking of other ways to possibly interpret the song; having just read Into the Wild, I had a thought that it would definitely fit well as an emotional response from Carine McCandless on her brother's disappearance.

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i really like the acoustic guitar at the beginning - it really sounds warm and it's beautifully played.
also, the vocals in the soft sections are a lot more pleasing to my ears than the "screaming" ones.
all in all i found your song very nice although the 3 chords riff made me immediately think about Stairway To Heaven
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Talk a bit about equipment you used, if you would. I'm curious about the recording.

That descending progression is probably overused, but it's so goddamn fantastic. I've leaned on it from time to time, as well. Everyone from Leadbelly to The Sex Pistols to Pearl Jam has used it, not to mention a trillion pop songs that disguise it a little bit more, so why the hell not?


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Great job man.... My only problem was in the softer parts of the vocals. This is just personal preference, but I would've liked to have heard a bit more edge on the vocals...maybe not quite so pretty. Other than that...loved it.

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