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 Post subject: Best 1998 Shows
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:17 am 
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So,

I've found threads for the following years (props to mowbs for most of these great threads):

1991: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3149&hilit=shows
1992: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3255&hilit=shows
1993: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3581&hilit=shows
1994: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3800&hilit=shows
1995: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4054&hilit=shows
1996: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4651&hilit=shows
2000: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8465&hilit=2000
2003: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12179&hilit=2003
2005: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=44011&hilit=shows
2006: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=56270&hilit=2006
2007: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=67728&hilit=shows


But I can't find any thread for 1998 shows and I'd really like to know what you wise RM'ers would consider shit-hot 1998 shows in both performance and sound quality.

Shoot!

PS: We should totally have a sticky regarding best shows from each tour, that'd be awesome.
PPS: I just realised there's no comprehensive 1997 or 2004 thread either (that I could find), I guess they didn't have tons of shows.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 1998 Shows
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Montreal is my favourite.

set: Sometimes, Corduroy, Animal, Hail Hail, Brain of J, Red Mosquito, Given to Fly, Even Flow, Not for You, Wishlist, Lukin, Jeremy, Daughter/(Another Brick in the Wall), Present Tense, State of Love and Trust, Do the Evolution
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 Post subject: Re: Best 1998 Shows
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I'm listening to 1998.07.13 right now, Brain of J. in fact:

"Back and to the left! Back and to the left!"

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 Post subject: Re: Best 1998 Shows
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Oh baby. 1998 - one of the all time greatest PJ tours but seriously underappreciated lately because of the lack of soundboards.

There is an FM Radio Broadcast recording available for 3/5/98 in Australia (Jack Irons on drums)

7/22/98 Seattle is a killer recording with perfect SBD quality and a high energy performance.

9/16/98 Boston is a very well known show which is also a SBD but very mono sounding. People loved this one when it first came out back in the day. The Throw Your Arms Around Me will give you chills.

I think there is also a steller audience recording from St Louis that tour, although I have never personally heard it.

From personal knowledge I know the audience boot from Philly night 2 (8/29/98) is high quality and it was also a fantastic show. Features the first ever performance of Push Me Pull Me which translates surprisingly well live.

Really, every show from 1998 is good. I love Knoxville, Denver, and Pittsburgh from that year too.

And the final run of the tour is pretty much a must have. Starting with the legendary 9/11/98 MSG show, the band moved through Hartford, two nights in Boston, two nights in DC and two nights in West Palm Beach Fl. I would try to acquire all of them if I were you. The West Palm boots sound pretty darn good too from what I remember.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 1998 Shows
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MSG II

Otherwise known as 9/11/98 Madison Square Garden

I have those on tape, literally, and they sound fantastic.

Also, a couple other shows I have on tape are Ed with C-Average opening for the Who at House of Blues. Those were some pretty cool shows.


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St Louis is my favorite from this tour, other good ones are MSG II,9/16/98-Boston and Barrie

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I have a definite bias from being there, but Denver 6.23.98 is a smokin' show. Great set with the band in a very good mood. In the second encore Ed played an absolutely beautiful, solo version of "I am a Patriot" thanks to some guys down the row from me who had brought a huge "Patriot Please" sign.


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The cutting of the mullet show is pretty good. Detroit I believe it is. Also the show with the long version of All Those Yesterdays. Maybe it was the Detroit show. I can't remember right now. Come to think of I can't remember if it was All Those Yesterdays.

VA Beach is also good, imo.

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MSG II was probably the best PJ show i've been to(been to about 30 shows)

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Clubber wrote:
MSG II was probably the best PJ show i've been to(been to about 30 shows)


9 years ago today. Maybe the best Pearl Jam show ever?

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1-31-98 It was the first time that i heard "Do The Evolution" live, and the first scream just blow me away......At the end, a beautiful version of "Nothingman",....It was a great show , and i never forget it....I like the Boston show number 2 too :D ...

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Clubber wrote:
MSG II was probably the best PJ show i've been to(been to about 30 shows)


that was my first show, and the energy thru out the whole thing was something I cant describe

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Koufax wrote:
Clubber wrote:
MSG II was probably the best PJ show i've been to(been to about 30 shows)


that was my first show, and the energy thru out the whole thing was something I cant describe


More energetic than a Camden hooker at the end of each month?

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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
Koufax wrote:
Clubber wrote:
MSG II was probably the best PJ show i've been to(been to about 30 shows)


that was my first show, and the energy thru out the whole thing was something I cant describe


More energetic than a Camden hooker at the end of each month?



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West Palm Beach II


MSG II
Not In Our Name (3-29-98) maybe the best short set show Ed's ever done
Both East Troy shows
Chicago
Constitution Hall (9-19-98)

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9/11/98 new york, ny
9/19/98 constitution hall
7/22/98 seattle, wa


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wtfisaledbetter? wrote:
St Louis is my favorite from this tour, other good ones are MSG II,9/16/98-Boston and Barrie


I listened to St Louis today, it kicked my arse in places I didn't know I could be kicked. FUCKING WOW, seriously.

I'm currently blasting LA II, good times.

I'm going to put it out there that 1998 is the summit of Pearl Jam's live powers, they'll never better how good they were at this time.

Eddie's voice: at his absolute best. He's past the non-stop growling and shouting of the early years, he shows how much he can sing but when he digs in deep to pull out a growl it's RIGHT THERE. Y'know how sometimes he pulls off that guttural howl these days but quite often when he goes for it there's just no gas in the tank? Just a pathetic squeak? Well, in 1998 it was RIGHT THERE, everytime.

Guitars: more distortion. :thumbsup:

Drums: Okay, NOW I get it: Matt's the fucking king of the drums. I'm guessing this is why lots of people worship at the alter of Cameron; I just never understood why before - I was a Jack die-hard. But now...I get it. It was just my fault for forgetting how awesome he was in 1998. Any other band would sound crippled by a fill-in drummer on the eve of a major tour; Pearl Jam sound REBORN.

WHY, WHY, WHY doesn't he play like this anymore? Listen to Corduroy from St Louis; is this the BEST version of this song EVER? It is to me and Matt makes it so. He doesn't play this song well at ALL anymore, what happened? It's just a blur these days, but this version just SLAYS. Slower doesn't mean wimpier, something PJ forgot somewhere after this tour.

I want THIS Matt back on drums, now.

1998 has great setlists too...none of this bring-back-the-shitty-older-songs-fan-fellating. Just playing whatever the fuck they want and the fans lapping it up, nobody sitting marking their list of "most rare song you've heard live".

Short and sweet shows, none of this three-encore stuff: just go out there, make your point, give 'em something extra to chew on and PISS OFF HOME.

1998 FTW: Who's with me?!!!


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1998 has great setlists too...none of this bring-back-the-shitty-older-songs-fan-fellating. Just playing whatever the fuck they want and the fans lapping it up, nobody sitting marking their list of "most rare song you've heard live".

Short and sweet shows, none of this three-encore stuff: just go out there, make your point, give 'em something extra to chew on and PISS OFF HOME.

1998 FTW: Who's with me?!!!


I totally agree. Is what I love about the Euro 2000 shows as well. And partially about the Canada 05 shows as well.


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9/16/98 Boston is a very well known show which is also a SBD but very mono sounding. People loved this one when it first came out back in the day. The Throw Your Arms Around Me will give you chills.

Yeah, I remember that as a great show as well. Ed crying during GTF. Just listening to that show gives you energy.

And I remember the shows on Maui from that year to be fun as well. I really need to dig out all the tapes I traded over the years and convert them to mp3, so I can listen to them more easily when I want to.

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Angus wrote:
spenno wrote:
1998 has great setlists too...none of this bring-back-the-shitty-older-songs-fan-fellating. Just playing whatever the fuck they want and the fans lapping it up, nobody sitting marking their list of "most rare song you've heard live".

Short and sweet shows, none of this three-encore stuff: just go out there, make your point, give 'em something extra to chew on and PISS OFF HOME.

1998 FTW: Who's with me?!!!


I totally agree. Is what I love about the Euro 2000 shows as well. And partially about the Canada 05 shows as well.


Yep, I think those tours are awesome.

I mean, seriously:

2006 setlist surprises: Leash & Dirty Frank.

2005 setlist surprises: Hard To Imagine & Black Red Yellow.

Um, I think we have a winner.

It's not that I'm against bringing rare stuff back into rotation, I just don't want it to feel as if the band are doing it just to placate their obsessive fans. Bring it back cuz you mean it, y'know.


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