How many people are against this?

I'm against them because the quality isn't there and the experience isn't the same. A 192kb mp3 is much more close to the real material than a downloaded movie, at least the ones I've seen.

truth, usually i do this in the case that i liked it so much i wanted to see it again. then i buy the dvd too

In my experience with some bootlegs, they were mostly horrible. Why people buy these, if for a couple of dollars, is beyond me.

Do not want.

A shitty cam job is one thing, but over the summer we've seen dvd quality leaks of Hostel II, Sicko, the work print of Halloween and Hatchet to name a few. The movie industry is safe for the time being due to the aforementioned issues, but if it can be expressed in bytes, you better believe the same problems are headed their way. And people will have no problem doing it.

For the record, I'm against this, though I have made exceptions for things that were totally out of print (Faster Pussycat Kill Kill) or alternate versions. But I still don't feel right about it, and it's definitely not the same.

I d/l everything I want to see. If it is good enough, I will go see it in the theatre. If not, I delete it and forget about it. For what we get charged to have a night at the movies, I should be walking out of there with a copy in my hand. I refuse to fork out the money to have to sit through a piece of shit like Transformers.

I treat mp3's the same way. If I like what I d/l, I buy it. If I don't, I erase it.

I have no personal guilt for not giving the studio money when I watch a shitty movie. I get to try clothes on before I buy them, I get to hit a golf club before I buy that too. Why should multi-million dollar companies be able to force me to pay for something that I don't like. If it was that big of a problem, maybe they should look at the business model before they blame the consumers for trying not to get raped. Howzabout getting rid of the unions? If a guy makes $70/hr to move a fake plant on a set, the budget for the piece of shit movie they're making goes through the roof. How about not paying huge stars $50mil for a movie? Here's a better idea... Stop making such shitty fucking movies all the time.

As a business owner, one must observe all angles to ensure profitablility. Sometimes, because of the work involved, I turn down business. I know that my overhead for completing a job is X. If X is equal to or slightly less than my profit (Y) why would I take that business. Seems like a whole lot of effort for very little to no profit. There is absolutely no point being in business to trade dollars. I could potentially make more money doing less work if I chose my projects carefully.

In a perfect world, the digitization and downloading of music and movies should weed out the poor quality releases. You want people to go to a movie on a Friday or buy that new Britney Spears album? How about not making the Backstreet Boys greatest hits or Electra and put that money towards improving something else. As far as I can tell, the whole entertainment industry suffers from poor management for longevity. You could argue whether a good manager should make as much profit as possible in the shortest amount of time or whether he/she should build a company for steady growth and sustainability. Currently, the former is in charge, maybe if a forward thinking management style was applied to either industry, they wouldn't be falling on hard times.

I d/l movies since it costs a ridiculous amount of money too see a movie in the theater here. Only DVD-rips though. I usually get a movie on DVD if I like it anyway.

Anti-you's dropping knowledge and making good points.

I guess I'm of a dying breed that actually likes going to the movies, when a good theatrical experience is to be had. More often due to shitty management of theaters, that isn't happening and that lures me to check out stuff online more than the money factor. I've had some really great moments in life sitting there in a darkened theater watching movies with others, and when it happens, it's more than worth my time and money. More and more, that's happening less unfortunately.

I'd gladly go see a GOOD movie in theaters. For one, most theaters don't show the fucking good movies lol. So many get limited release. I will still rent movies (and burn ). Downloading new ones that aren't on dvd. I will also buy a few (I own like 30).

Yeah, limited release is a bitch for me around here. Sometimes we get the good stuff and sometimes we just miss out.

conversely, I can go out tonight and see Good Luck Chuck at all of the theatres in my city.

Try and find Halloween at a theatre in October though...

I'm the same way. I love the magic of a big screen in a darkened theater. To me it's worth it to sit through the forgettable stuff in hopes of that rare occasion of finding a gem of a cinematic experience. That discovery of "my god, this is fantastic" right there in the theater. This is why I don't seek out bootlegs or online media. But I can understand why someone would.

But, in this digital age, I wouldn't trade my theatrical memories of Children of Men, Return of the King, Pan's Labyrinth, Once, or Ratatouille for anything.

I've always liked you, antiyou.

showtime leaked some episodes from dexter,weeds and californication months ago

i just saw spartacus last night for 25 dollars at the archligt and kirk douglas introduced the film... its not the movie you are paying for its the theater, and that experience of sharing a world with an audience

This is my problem with theatres. The audience usually consists of teenagers who spends most of their time talking on their phone, sending text messages and talking/fighting/flirting with each other and ruining the experience for those who are there to watch the movie.

yeah depends when and where you go, one good thing about LA is there's a lot of theaters full of people who still really respect filmmaking

the problem here is that the films take so long to come out that if you want to see what all the fuss is about the dvd-rips of the region 1 releases are on the web before its in the cinema here. I dont really download films all that much but will make an exception if there is something that i/the wife really wants to see and there is a dvd rip out e.g. knocked up was out on dvd in the states a week before it went on limited release here.

Tv shows are a whole different ball game thats why i have the internets.

It also depends on what movie you're going to see. I don't think it would surprise anyone that the "bigger" the movie is, the more problems there'll be within the audience and their lack of respect for others. Just my experience, anyhow.

oh absolutely. I don't even go to the main weekend showings anymore, you're guaranteed to have it ruined for you. I try to go on Sundays while everyone is in church or some random week night. That, more than piracy or price increases is what's spoiling movies for me, people who think it's their goddamn living room.