Post subject: Movie of the Week #49: Dead Poets Society
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:17 pm
Epitome of cool
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Dead Poets Society (1989): Directed by Peter Weir
IMDb revewer wrote:
Dead Poets Society is, to use a cliché, a cinematic masterpiece. I can watch it over and over, absorbing more nuances of meaning every time. As a former teacher myself (albeit of science), I view it as a tribute to the profession at its best...teaching not merely the subject but also the person, and having a lifelong impact on students' lives.
The setting is Weldon Academy, a very traditional New England boys' prep school in 1959. If I can find one flaw with the movie...and there certainly aren't many...it's the underlying premise that seems to worship free thought and implies that ALL tradition is of necessity undesirable and thus to be avoided. Frankly, compared to modern classrooms which are bastions of free expression, I found the Weldon students' respectful treatment of their teachers rather refreshing. (But perhaps that's just the ex-teacher in me coming out!) Some of Weldon's ideals, generally referred to in mocking tones, are actually qualities to which parents rightfully DO hope their offspring will aspire.
Robin Williams plays Mr. Keating, the English teacher we all wish we'd had. He brings warmth, passion, and an endearing quiet humor to the role as he fosters individualism in a school environment of total conformity, endeavoring to teach these young men both the beauty of the English language and the importance of living life to the full, of "seizing the day". How many of us mentally revolted at the dissection of poetry when we were in school? Many a viewer will both chortle and rejoice when Mr. Keating has his class rip out the methodical, emotionless "Introduction to Poetry" from the time honored Pritchard textbook!
The "Dead Poets Society", and the boys on which Mr. Keating has such a profound impact, include an interesting mix of characters...Neil Perry (the passionate young man at odds with his father's clearly defined expectations for his son's life), Todd Anderson (the classic shy adolescent, through whose eyes we view the unfolding drama), Charlie Dalton (the quintessential rebel), Knox Overstreet (the teen with whom most viewers can identify, deep in the throes of first love), and Richard Cameron (the mindless conformist).
Ethan Hawke gives a moving performance as Todd, the younger brother of a former Weldon valedictorian and my personal favorite, who undergoes a character transformation as the plot unfolds. In a sense, this movie is really Todd's story. As another reviewer has wisely pointed out, his best scenes are sometimes when he has no dialogue at all. Your heart will ache for him. The sub-plot of young Overstreet's romance with a girl from a nearby school may not be brilliant, but it provides some light, entertaining relief from the main drama.
Needless to say, Mr. Keating's unorthodox approach meets with obstacles...from his fellow teachers, from the school's ultra traditional Headmaster, from Neil's overbearing father and the other parents, who are depicted as a conservative, status conscious lot. His encouragement of adolescent individualism leads to dramatic consequences for one student in particular, triggering a dramatic scenario that engulfs most of his classmates. I don't want to give the plot away, but Dead Poets Society has the most powerful ending I've experienced in the cinematic world. I could watch it over and over, and tears would either come to my eyes or virtually stream down my cheeks every time.
It's an intelligent film, both gripping to watch and thought provoking afterward. Engaging plot, memorable characters, meaningful theme, wonderfully done scenes and atmosphere...Dead Poets Society has it all. A special tip of my hat to the cinematography; clearly, it should have won an Oscar for the final scene alone.
This is a must-see movie, especially if you're a high school student who hates English. It might just change your view of the subject, even if your actual teacher doesn't quite measure up to Mr. Keating. And for everyone...not only "Carpe Diem", but a certain phrase from a Walt Whitman poem will take on incredible meaning and be remembered forever.
I liked this movie, but find it to be vastly ovewrrated. As good as Williams and the rest of the cast is, there's just an overwhelming cheesy feeling to it all that I personally cannot escape. It's definitely worth at least one look; a few people I know love this movie as much as the above-quoted IMDb user, but it just doesn't move me like it should (and I absolutely loved English class in high school and college). But even at its worst, it's still a solid little movie with a great air of inspiration behind it. It just never hit me as hard as it probably should have or could have.
Post subject: Re: Movie of the Week #49: Dead Poets Society
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:22 pm
The Maleficent
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:17 pm Posts: 13551 Location: is a jerk in wyoming Gender: Female
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As good as Williams and the rest of the cast is, there's just an overwhelming cheesy feeling to it all that I personally cannot escape
thank you. I could never quite understand what was so oustanding about this movie- it IS fairly cheesy, and I think it tries too hard, or maybe Robin Williams tries too hard. I appreciate it as a 'not shitty' movie, but I think sitting through it once was more than enough for me.
Post subject: Re: Movie of the Week #49: Dead Poets Society
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:18 pm
Supersonic
Joined: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:59 pm Posts: 14656
wow! i'm surprised at the former reviews i just read from two respected (by me) RM members....they have a rather jaded quality, imo
this movie is beyond inspiring for me...the performances, from a mostly unknown cast at the time, are quality ones...ethan hawke's self conscious low selfesteemed character for one made me squirm just watching him....and his scene alone where his character has a tremendous break through in class, brought goosebumps.
maybe it comes off overdramatic. could be for some.... but the subject they're dealing with, individuality, free-thinking, non-conformity, deserves that kind of spotlight....and that it's done with such sensitivity and humor by williams is the icing on the cake.
i have so much more that i feel about this movie i can't necessarily verbalize; needless to say, it may be my favorite movie of all time; at least the most inspirational one and thanks Frankie for doing it
and may i just add that i believe this movie encapsulates every human's struggle in this society...the challenge to remain true to ourselves in the face of parental, educational and corporate control. i personally can't think of a more important struggle than that
Post subject: Re: Movie of the Week #49: Dead Poets Society
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:39 am
Menace to Dogciety
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:54 pm Posts: 12287 Location: Manguetown Gender: Male
Cheesy indeed, but still a very good movie.
_________________ There's just no mercy in your eyes There ain't no time to set things right And I'm afraid I've lost the fight I'm just a painful reminder Another day you leave behind
Post subject: Re: Movie of the Week #49: Dead Poets Society
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:57 pm
The Maleficent
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:17 pm Posts: 13551 Location: is a jerk in wyoming Gender: Female
Theresa wrote:
i'm sorry but i just don't see the fromage here you guys i'm disappointed in all of you
Hi T- don't be disappointed, babe. Here's the thing for me- I appreciate everything you have to say about this movie, and I know it's coming from you in very sincere and truthful form, and I even agree with you to some extent. The problem I had was my expectation for that movie when it came out were very high, and I was nonplussed by it when I finally saw it- I expected better. more subtle making of the points you yourself were most inspired by in the movie.
For sure there's those things there, but I'd have been happier without being beaten over the head with it, and then about the face, arms, legs and butt with it after that...
I don't often comment on movies in here mainly becasue I think my own opinions are widely varied from everyone else's and I already cause enough chaos on this board to take care of my desires to argue or whatever so don't take it personally - I have different tastes than you which is ok with me, and I suspect with you too- I just want you to understand I don't disrespect the message of the movie, I was more put off by the delivery.
Post subject: Re: Movie of the Week #49: Dead Poets Society
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:47 pm
Interweb Celebrity
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:47 am Posts: 46000 Location: Reasonville
never seen it, but that clip doesn't sway me.
_________________ No matter how dark the storm gets overhead They say someone's watching from the calm at the edge What about us when we're down here in it? We gotta watch our backs
Post subject: Re: Movie of the Week #49: Dead Poets Society
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:53 pm
Supersonic
Joined: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:59 pm Posts: 14656
malice wrote:
Theresa wrote:
i'm sorry but i just don't see the fromage here you guys i'm disappointed in all of you
Hi T- don't be disappointed, babe. Here's the thing for me- I appreciate everything you have to say about this movie, and I know it's coming from you in very sincere and truthful form, and I even agree with you to some extent. The problem I had was my expectation for that movie when it came out were very high, and I was nonplussed by it when I finally saw it- I expected better. more subtle making of the points you yourself were most inspired by in the movie.
For sure there's those things there, but I'd have been happier without being beaten over the head with it, and then about the face, arms, legs and butt with it after that...
I don't often comment on movies in here mainly becasue I think my own opinions are widely varied from everyone else's and I already cause enough chaos on this board to take care of my desires to argue or whatever so don't take it personally - I have different tastes than you which is ok with me, and I suspect with you too- I just want you to understand I don't disrespect the message of the movie, I was more put off by the delivery.
i know honey...thanks for taking the time to gently explain...i just feel so strongly about the movie that i want others to see what i see in it
Post subject: Re: Movie of the Week #49: Dead Poets Society
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:29 pm
Mike's Maniac
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:58 pm Posts: 19700 Location: long island Gender: Female
i really like this movie, I don't even know what it is about this movie that grabs me-i am not a huge movie buff and really don't watch them too often at all and when i do its only horror movies---but this is one movie that always stuck with me and yes it is quite corny, it is well written and i like the message it put out. I haven't seen it in a long time, probally 4 or 5 years i'd be intersted in seeing if it has the same effect on me
Post subject: Re: Movie of the Week #49: Dead Poets Society
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:15 am
Supersonic
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:07 pm Posts: 12393
I agree with what's been said, however, I think a lot of what I perceive as cheese has to do with seeing Williams through a sort of jaundiced eye due to his total destruction of his career. It effects my viewing of Fisher King, too.
I gotta say, I still fucking LOVE that guy in World According to Garp. One of my favorite movies of all time.
Post subject: Re: Movie of the Week #49: Dead Poets Society
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:44 am
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Joined: Mon May 30, 2005 4:47 pm Posts: 3677 Location: Newfoundland Gender: Male
Apparently my pick of Williams is what lost me the Actors tourny. Well, I still stand by my pick and this film is a perfectg example of why. Excellent movie.
Post subject: Re: Movie of the Week #49: Dead Poets Society
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:44 am
Supersonic
Joined: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:59 pm Posts: 14656
ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote:
Apparently my pick of Williams is what lost me the Actors tourny. Well, I still stand by my pick and this film is a perfectg example of why. Excellent movie.
Good Will Hunting, Dead Poet's, Fisher King....can't argue with this kind of talent
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