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 Post subject: What did Matt Cameron think when...
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:21 pm 
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Binaural
1) Ed played Breakherfall for the firstime, for the band
2) Grievance

Riot Act
1) Green Disease
2) Can't Keep

S/T
1) Gone


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i remember jeff saying the whole band was blown away by gone

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Why Matt Cameron specifically?


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Because he was the "new" member and had never been with the band in the studio before Binaural. And for Riot Act, because he'd only been in one other time, under different circumstances, and likewise for S/T, though not as interesting for the most recent sessions.


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i remember jeff saying the whole band was blown away by gone


I never believed it then, and I don't believe it now. If I were in the band I' have told Ed the song sucks and we should just move on.

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I'm pretty sure there was a missing :arrow:

Otherwise....


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I'm pretty sure there was a missing :arrow:

Otherwise....


No, I really dislike Gone Ike. I don't think it's anything other than generic an it doesn't fit the album well, IMO.

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Isaac Turner wrote:
I'm pretty sure there was a missing :arrow:

Otherwise....


No, I really dislike Gone Ike. I don't think it's anything other than generic an it doesn't fit the album well, IMO.



I agree. I think Warehouse was joking when he made the comment about what Jeff said.


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he probably thought of soundgarden.

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Isaac Turner wrote:
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I'm pretty sure there was a missing :arrow:

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No, I really dislike Gone Ike. I don't think it's anything other than generic an it doesn't fit the album well, IMO.



I agree. I think Warehouse was joking when he made the comment about what Jeff said.


No, he was serious. I remember an interview with Mike where he said the same thing.

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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
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I'm pretty sure there was a missing :arrow:

Otherwise....


No, I really dislike Gone Ike. I don't think it's anything other than generic an it doesn't fit the album well, IMO.



I agree. I think Warehouse was joking when he made the comment about what Jeff said.


No, he was serious. I remember an interview with Mike where he said the same thing.


wow :shock:


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Remember he was the one who came in with evacuation or cropduster? i dont think the songs you list are un-pj, not more than those cameron wrote anyways... except for you are that didnt fit too well with what the band was doing but was imho a good song that im glad did make the cut... actually, i like breakerfall, i was in buenos aires 25-11-05, they opened with that one... it totally rocked


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he thought, "what the hell did i get myself into."

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Eddie and Matt Cameron are close. Do you think that Eddie demo'ed GRIEVANCE with Matt before he played it for the rest of the band? The intro and bridge are percussion-based. Matt's favorite song on Binaural is PARTING WAYS. When he was asked by KNDD in 2000 what his favorite Pearl Jam song was, this is what he said:

Matt: What about, uh ... I'm not very good with titles. [laughter] I just remember music. I like Parting Ways, myself. I don't know, it's just ... lyrically, it's ... staggeringly good.

When Jeff was asked at the same interview what his favorite Pearl Jam songs were he said that they were PRESENT TENSE, WISHLIST and ALIVE. Here is what he said specifically about PRESENT TENSE:

Jeff: I think lyrically, it was..it was one of those lyrics that I wish I would have wrote. Because it totally represented, like, how I feel. Like when he wrote that lyric, I was like, "WOW." You know? That's a feeling that I've had in me for a long time, and he just put it into words.

http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... dd00.shtml

Jeff also told Rolling Stone in the audio interview that was on their website that when Eddie played GONE at the Borgata, a song that he had written the night before, all of them loved the song so much that they talked him into working it up into a full band version for the album. It was a last-minute inclusion. The interview is no longer linked on their website. Sorry.


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I never believed it then, and I don't believe it now. If I were in the band I' have told Ed the song sucks and we should just move on.

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I never believed it then, and I don't believe it now. If I were in the band I' have told Ed the song sucks and we should just move on.

:finger:


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I never believed it then, and I don't believe it now. If I were in the band I' have told Ed the song sucks and we should just move on.

:finger:


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CAN'T KEEP was one of Eddie's uke songs. I think that it probably made it onto Riot Act because the others heard Eddie play it for himself and really liked it. The full band version has a really nice feel and texture. And they put the effort into learning it that they didn't put into learning GREEN DISEASE. That one was one of the few songs not played live on the record because no one wanted to put the effort into learning it. And not all of the parts are played live even today. Here's an interview from the Riot Act press tour.

In keeping with the spontaneity Vedder brought to the sessions, nearly all of Riot Act was recorded live in the studio. Mistakes stayed. Sometimes, performances sound on the verge of falling apart. That stayed, too.

"This is definitely our anti-Pro Tools record," says drummer Matt Cameron, referring to the computer software that allows musicians to manipulate bits of audio endlessly. "To us, a song like 'Can't Keep' is proof that it's more interesting hearing musicians in a room playing hard, with the tempo fluctuating slightly as the band heats up. Perfection is boring."

The hard part for Pearl Jam's members was to resist the impulse to "improve" what they had created. The band with a notorious aversion to videos is also famously wary of making rock-and-roll that's too pretty. "If something is too catchy, we'll [mess] it up on purpose," says Vedder, proudly. "There's a part of us that doesn't want things to be too obvious."

Gossard disagrees. "Our job is to bring out those golden moments in the songs, and his," he pauses, looking at Vedder, "is to take them out. We'll think a song is finished, then we'll find out he's in the studio rethinking the whole thing... . By the time he's done, we don't have to worry about being catchy anymore."

Fortunately, says Gossard, Riot Act wasn't subjected to much last-minute tweaking: "Everybody wanted to make music that had a lot of different emotions inside it. To do that we couldn't be calculating too much. We had to trust each other. We had to trust Ed... . You watch him take words to these places, just pulling images from all over the place, and you start to believe there is magic in the world."


http://www.freewebs.com/pearljamstudy/1 ... motion.htm

So Stone was very happy that Eddie didn't do a lot of tweaking on Riot Act. Unlike the tweak-happy Vedder of Vitalogy.


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what about world wide suicide? or comatose? they must have laughed, right?

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what about world wide suicide? or comatose? they must have laughed, right?

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