Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:53 pm
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i have not but been very close to recording at one. my friend owns one -- albeit small -- and gave me a good price offer. i basically just wimped out.
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Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:16 pm
Landry
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I've recorded at one before. Our studio techie was awesome, but there's a lot that goes into mastering ProTools and the whole soundboard thing. It strikes me as something a lot like making music itself. You can get really good at it, but it's not something you can ever really tame, just something where there are varying degrees of awesome.
Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:39 pm
Supersonic
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I've spent a lot of time in the studios around the area, sat in a number of times with one of the engineers who worked on I'm Wide Awake it's Morning. He got his start at Electric Ladyland...funny, if you have a cheap acoustic he can make it sound great, but if ou have a really nice instrument he usually leaves it sounding scratchy.
Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:05 pm
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
i have not but been very close to recording at one. my friend owns one -- albeit small -- and gave me a good price offer. i basically just wimped out.
you need to seize more days man
parchy wrote:
I've recorded at one before. Our studio techie was awesome, but there's a lot that goes into mastering ProTools and the whole soundboard thing. It strikes me as something a lot like making music itself. You can get really good at it, but it's not something you can ever really tame, just something where there are varying degrees of awesome.
yeah i have pro tools and am getting better with it everyday. but i wanna see the masters in action.
McParadigm wrote:
if you have a cheap acoustic he can make it sound great, but if ou have a really nice instrument he usually leaves it sounding scratchy.
thats the kind of stuff i want to learn
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Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:44 pm
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windedsailor wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
i have not but been very close to recording at one. my friend owns one -- albeit small -- and gave me a good price offer. i basically just wimped out.
you need to seize more days man
i suck, man.
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Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:53 pm
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I've recorded in a studio and have a shitload of friends who are all music production majors.
But everyone I know who is somebody in the music biz did exactly what you are thinking about. They just started showing up at the studio and interning for free before they eventually got their big break.
Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:43 pm
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I worked as a DJ at the university radio station for a while and we had a small studio. We didn't have Pro Tools, but using the board and stuff was pretty self-explanatory once someone showed you the basics.
Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:15 pm
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Theresa wrote:
are you still a college student?
nope, but i'm still learning.
corduroy_blazer wrote:
windedsailor wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
i have not but been very close to recording at one. my friend owns one -- albeit small -- and gave me a good price offer. i basically just wimped out.
you need to seize more days man
i suck, man.
DaytimeDilemma wrote:
I've recorded in a studio and have a shitload of friends who are all music production majors. But everyone I know who is somebody in the music biz did exactly what you are thinking about. They just started showing up at the studio and interning for free before they eventually got their big break.
Go for it.
nice i think i will. i think some of the most fun i've had in life was recording music and making movies, so its gotta beat going to bars and wasting money at night.
drdrainoscott wrote:
I worked for about 9 months at a studio in ATL. Swear to God, I was there the day Cee-lo wrote the lyrics to Crazy
haha, that's something to tell the grandkids.
ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote:
I worked as a DJ at the university radio station for a while and we had a small studio. We didn't have Pro Tools, but using the board and stuff was pretty self-explanatory once someone showed you the basics.
yeah i've worked in a radiostation. and i know a lot about how all that works. But i wanna be professional good. i feel like working in a professional environment would make it happen.
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Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:55 am
Supersonic
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windedsailor wrote:
Theresa wrote:
are you still a college student?
nope, but i'm still learning.
corduroy_blazer wrote:
windedsailor wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
i have not but been very close to recording at one. my friend owns one -- albeit small -- and gave me a good price offer. i basically just wimped out.
you need to seize more days man
i suck, man.
DaytimeDilemma wrote:
I've recorded in a studio and have a shitload of friends who are all music production majors. But everyone I know who is somebody in the music biz did exactly what you are thinking about. They just started showing up at the studio and interning for free before they eventually got their big break.
Go for it.
nice i think i will. i think some of the most fun i've had in life was recording music and making movies, so its gotta beat going to bars and wasting money at night.
drdrainoscott wrote:
I worked for about 9 months at a studio in ATL. Swear to God, I was there the day Cee-lo wrote the lyrics to Crazy
haha, that's something to tell the grandkids.
ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote:
I worked as a DJ at the university radio station for a while and we had a small studio. We didn't have Pro Tools, but using the board and stuff was pretty self-explanatory once someone showed you the basics.
yeah i've worked in a radiostation. and i know a lot about how all that works. But i wanna be professional good. i feel like working in a professional environment would make it happen.
that's why i asked if you were a student; most stations won't let you intern unless you're doing it for college credit; still, it's worth trying out; get a list of radio stations in the city, get the production director's name, and send your resume or try and call even..
Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:58 am
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Theresa wrote:
windedsailor wrote:
Theresa wrote:
are you still a college student?
nope, but i'm still learning.
corduroy_blazer wrote:
windedsailor wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
i have not but been very close to recording at one. my friend owns one -- albeit small -- and gave me a good price offer. i basically just wimped out.
you need to seize more days man
i suck, man.
DaytimeDilemma wrote:
I've recorded in a studio and have a shitload of friends who are all music production majors. But everyone I know who is somebody in the music biz did exactly what you are thinking about. They just started showing up at the studio and interning for free before they eventually got their big break.
Go for it.
nice i think i will. i think some of the most fun i've had in life was recording music and making movies, so its gotta beat going to bars and wasting money at night.
drdrainoscott wrote:
I worked for about 9 months at a studio in ATL. Swear to God, I was there the day Cee-lo wrote the lyrics to Crazy
haha, that's something to tell the grandkids.
ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote:
I worked as a DJ at the university radio station for a while and we had a small studio. We didn't have Pro Tools, but using the board and stuff was pretty self-explanatory once someone showed you the basics.
yeah i've worked in a radiostation. and i know a lot about how all that works. But i wanna be professional good. i feel like working in a professional environment would make it happen.
that's why i asked if you were a student; most stations won't let you intern unless you're doing it for college credit; still, it's worth trying out; get a list of radio stations in the city, get the production director's name, and send your resume or try and call even..
Good Luck
i'm going to do a recording studio not a radiostation. but i'm essentially going to do the same thing for recording studios... i'm trying to track down ones that are recording good music. elliott smith's old studio's only 20 minutes away from me so that's my grand target so far.
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Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:24 am
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winded, you should come over at our place while we mix. not only you wouldn't learn anything because we speak french and use all the english technical words with our weird accent but you'd have to get drunk and stoned i'm sure we'd have a good time though.
seriously, i've been into professional studios a few times and it was cool, not having to worry about the mic placement etc. i'm sure that days are long for techies though. they seem pretty passionate about fixing stuff which is admirable and quite impressive for a un-tech guy like me. a friend of mine did help set up gigs and attend shows from behind the console in a theatre in QC and it was very formating for her.
Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:36 am
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mastaflatch wrote:
winded, you should come over at our place while we mix. not only you wouldn't learn anything because we speak french and use all the english technical words with our weird accent but you'd have to get drunk and stoned i'm sure we'd have a good time though.
seriously, i've been into professional studios a few times and it was cool, not having to worry about the mic placement etc. i'm sure that days are long for techies though. they seem pretty passionate about fixing stuff which is admirable and quite impressive for a un-tech guy like me. a friend of mine did help set up gigs and attend shows from behind the console in a theatre in QC and it was very formating for her.
haha, i'd be on the first train to quebec if i could... though i'd prolly just get drunk, i've never been stoned. yeah all that tech stuff i'd like to learn cause its what really makes a difference in a recording. when it comes down to it, i want to eliminate as many steps as i can between me and creating sounds. i feel like if i learn from those guys, i'll be able to do it all myself, cause i can't find anyone that i feel on the same page with here. plus matt mahaffey from self is a producer, and his music is on a whole other level due to his producing skills. i'd like to get to that level someday.
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Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:44 am
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windedsailor wrote:
mastaflatch wrote:
winded, you should come over at our place while we mix. not only you wouldn't learn anything because we speak french and use all the english technical words with our weird accent but you'd have to get drunk and stoned i'm sure we'd have a good time though.
seriously, i've been into professional studios a few times and it was cool, not having to worry about the mic placement etc. i'm sure that days are long for techies though. they seem pretty passionate about fixing stuff which is admirable and quite impressive for a un-tech guy like me. a friend of mine did help set up gigs and attend shows from behind the console in a theatre in QC and it was very formating for her.
haha, i'd be on the first train to quebec if i could... though i'd prolly just get drunk, i've never been stoned. yeah all that tech stuff i'd like to learn cause its what really makes a difference in a recording. when it comes down to it, i want to eliminate as many steps as i can between me and creating sounds. i feel like if i learn from those guys, i'll be able to do it all myself, cause i can't find anyone that i feel on the same page with here. plus matt mahaffey from self is a producer, and his music is on a whole other level due to his producing skills. i'd like to get to that level someday.
do you wanna learn the pro tool stuff or the analog process? both? why? what's the weather out there?
Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:47 am
Supersonic
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:07 pm Posts: 12393
Son of a bitch, I just deleted a big post.
The main thing was: recording is a very gelatinous thing. There isn't really a wrong and right way to approach it...there isn't even a set of rights and wrongs. If you can arrange to do what you're suggesting, go for it, but just make sure you're an active participant. If you're just observing, you're better off recording on your own with whatever you have.
Sufjan Stevens cut his Michigan CD using a portable 8-track and a $100 mic. Damien Rice's first disc was cut the same way. Tom Waits throws the entire book out the window by recording only in untreated rooms, overcompressing almost everything, pushing his signals well into the red, and cutting many of his vocals with mics that are meant to record harmonica.
Daniel Lanois once said that engineers who learn the craft in a studio are picking up the ideas on budgeted time, where the costs are too high to take a few hours and try and find something new or original. I mean, it can be cool, but I stopped going because after a year I felt like I was wasting my time.
Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:49 am
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:03 am Posts: 18376 Location: outta space Gender: Male
mastaflatch wrote:
windedsailor wrote:
mastaflatch wrote:
winded, you should come over at our place while we mix. not only you wouldn't learn anything because we speak french and use all the english technical words with our weird accent but you'd have to get drunk and stoned i'm sure we'd have a good time though.
seriously, i've been into professional studios a few times and it was cool, not having to worry about the mic placement etc. i'm sure that days are long for techies though. they seem pretty passionate about fixing stuff which is admirable and quite impressive for a un-tech guy like me. a friend of mine did help set up gigs and attend shows from behind the console in a theatre in QC and it was very formating for her.
haha, i'd be on the first train to quebec if i could... though i'd prolly just get drunk, i've never been stoned. yeah all that tech stuff i'd like to learn cause its what really makes a difference in a recording. when it comes down to it, i want to eliminate as many steps as i can between me and creating sounds. i feel like if i learn from those guys, i'll be able to do it all myself, cause i can't find anyone that i feel on the same page with here. plus matt mahaffey from self is a producer, and his music is on a whole other level due to his producing skills. i'd like to get to that level someday.
do you wanna learn the pro tool stuff or the analog process? both? why? what's the weather out there?
i already know some pro tools stuff. i'd really like to learn mixing and mastering. ect. also i'd like to learn about the physical micing and preamps ect. i just like being able to make things the best i can. i also like seeing how they do it, and learning new tricks and finding new ways to apply them.
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Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:53 am
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McParadigm wrote:
Son of a bitch, I just deleted a big post.
The main thing was: recording is a very gelatinous thing. There isn't really a wrong and right way to approach it...there isn't even a set of rights and wrongs. If you can arrange to do what you're suggesting, go for it, but just make sure you're an active participant. If you're just observing, you're better off recording on your own with whatever you have.
Sufjan Stevens cut his Michigan CD using a portable 8-track and a $100 mic. Damien Rice's first disc was cut the same way. Tom Waits throws the entire book out the window by recording only in untreated rooms, overcompressing almost everything, pushing his signals well into the red, and cutting many of his vocals with mics that are meant to record harmonica.
Daniel Lanois once said that engineers who learn the craft in a studio are picking up the ideas on budgeted time, where the costs are too high to take a few hours and try and find something new or original. I mean, it can be cool, but I stopped going because after a year I felt like I was wasting my time.
yeah that stuffs all cool. but there's definitely a lot of basic principles i need to learn to get the desired effect that i'm going for. that's true about studio's being on budgeted time, but at the same time that's where the pros are and they have done a lot of the legwork, and they can teach you a lot so you don't spend your time reinventing the new wheel. you end up going home and inventing a much more awesome wheel
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Post subject: Re: anyone here ever work at a recording studio?
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:54 am
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McParadigm wrote:
Son of a bitch, I just deleted a big post.
The main thing was: recording is a very gelatinous thing. There isn't really a wrong and right way to approach it...there isn't even a set of rights and wrongs. If you can arrange to do what you're suggesting, go for it, but just make sure you're an active participant. If you're just observing, you're better off recording on your own with whatever you have.
Sufjan Stevens cut his Michigan CD using a portable 8-track and a $100 mic. Damien Rice's first disc was cut the same way. Tom Waits throws the entire book out the window by recording only in untreated rooms, overcompressing almost everything, pushing his signals well into the red, and cutting many of his vocals with mics that are meant to record harmonica.
Daniel Lanois once said that engineers who learn the craft in a studio are picking up the ideas on budgeted time, where the costs are too high to take a few hours and try and find something new or original. I mean, it can be cool, but I stopped going because after a year I felt like I was wasting my time.
that's the thing really. whatever feels right IS right. the usual no-no's from studio schools overlook many flares of genius. i have the feeling that it's becoming a job rather than an artistic endeavour which makes perfect sense expressed in dollars and cents, pound shillings and pence.
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