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Since this is peripherally related to PJ, I thought I'd mention that it appears that rootnode--that allowed a pretty outrageous free exchange of ideas regarding the band--has been under hacker attack for some time, but that the job was finally completed.
This is probably entirely the wrong place to be asking this question since it's of a technical nature, but why would some entity like rootnode just let the hackers in? If it were my site (which, of course, thankfully it isn't), I'd pull the plug on it until I could fix my security issues. Does it seem weird that they haven't to you?
Also, just to be on the safe side, I'b be wary of downloading plug-ins in order to view the site, if you choose to go there.
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What is rootnode?
I think it would make a good title for the new album.
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I'm going to move this since it's not really PJ-related. But I also want to say...
SecretGirl wrote:
If it were my site (which, of course, thankfully it isn't), I'd pull the plug on it until I could fix my security issues.
If it was that easy, I'm sure they would have. There are literally thousands of ways that someone can compromise a website and especially to someone who is not a security expert, it's nearly impossible to "fix" your security issues. Even after finding out that your server has been compromised, it can often be extremely difficult just determining how they did so to prevent it in the future. Heck, just look at what recently happened with the FBI.
Unless you're willing to spend hours upon hours understanding how it all works, securing your site is a ton more difficult than you might think, and most people who are involved with web design have no knowledge about this. It's also a question of how the site was hosted - conceivably, the webhost could be at fault if rootnode was using shared hosting and not dedicated hosting. Or, if it uses advertising, the advertising company could have been compromised and suddenly you're feeling the results of their lack of security.
Anyway, I'm just pointing out that it's a lot more complicated than just taking the server off-line, securing it up, and that's that.
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ericd102 wrote:
What exactly was rootnode?
Telling us in vague generalizations doesn't help.
It was where those with an unhealthy obsession with PJ liked to hang out. Here's a link Rootnode
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stonecrest wrote:
I'm going to move this since it's not really PJ-related. But I also want to say...
SecretGirl wrote:
If it were my site (which, of course, thankfully it isn't), I'd pull the plug on it until I could fix my security issues.
If it was that easy, I'm sure they would have. There are literally thousands of ways that someone can compromise a website and especially to someone who is not a security expert, it's nearly impossible to "fix" your security issues. Even after finding out that your server has been compromised, it can often be extremely difficult just determining how they did so to prevent it in the future. Heck, just look at what recently happened with the FBI.
Unless you're willing to spend hours upon hours understanding how it all works, securing your site is a ton more difficult than you might think, and most people who are involved with web design have no knowledge about this. It's also a question of how the site was hosted - conceivably, the webhost could be at fault if rootnode was using shared hosting and not dedicated hosting. Or, if it uses advertising, the advertising company could have been compromised and suddenly you're feeling the results of their lack of security.
Anyway, I'm just pointing out that it's a lot more complicated than just taking the server off-line, securing it up, and that's that.
I'm sure you're right, but it still seems weird to just leave it up and let them do their stuff on your dime, you know?
Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:52 am Posts: 106 Location: Sydney, Australia
You mean http://www.rootnode.org ? There was that thread about 100 pages log entitled Is Eddie Vedder Still Married? It ended up being an Eddie and Jill hatefest until the hackers got to it.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:19 pm Posts: 39068 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Gender: Male
vacatetheword wrote:
ericd102 wrote:
What exactly was rootnode?
Telling us in vague generalizations doesn't help.
It was where those with an unhealthy obsession with PJ liked to hang out. Here's a link Rootnode
I don't get it. Why's it called rootnode?
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