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Apple mulls unlimited music bundle
By Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson in London

Published: March 18 2008 22:01

Apple is in discussions with the big music companies about a radical new business model that would give customers free access to its entire iTunes music library in exchange for paying a premium for its iPod and iPhone devices.

The “all you can eat” model, a replica of Nokia’s “comes with music” deal with Universal Music last December, could provide the struggling recorded music industry with a much-needed fillip, and drive demand for a new generation of Apple’s hardware.

Music groups eye share of Apple’s pie - Mar-18Retailers clash with Pepsi over free music - Mar-16Apple unveils iPhone grand plan - Mar-09iPhone fine-tuned for business users - Mar-07DoubleTwist wins venture capital backing - Feb-18Apple to cut UK prices for iTunes - Jan-09Apple would not comment on the plan, but executives familiar with the negotiations said they hinged on a dispute over the price the computer maker would be willing to pay for access to the labels’ libraries.

Nokia is understood to be offering almost $80 per handset to music industry partners, to be divided according to their share of the market. However, Apple has so far offered only about $20 per device, two executives said. “It’s who blinks first, and whether or not anyone does blink,” one executive said.

Detailed market research has shown strong appetite among consumers for deals bundling music in with the cost of the device, or in exchange for a monthly subscription, executives said.

One executive said the research had shown that consumers would pay a premium of up to $100 for unlimited access to music for the lifetime of the device, or a monthly fee of $7-$8 for a subscription model.

Apple, which is thought to make relatively little money from the iTunes store compared with its hardware sales, is also understood to be examining a subscription model.

Subscriptions would work only for its iPhone devices, where it has a monthly billing relationship with customers through the mobile phone operators offering the device, while the “comes with music” model would work with iPhones and with iPods.

The subscription models under discussion in the music industry include the provision for customers to keep up to 40 or 50 tracks a year, which they would retain even if they changed their device or their subscription lapses.

Other music groups are understood to be in talks with Nokia, which is keen to sign up as many of the major labels as possible before launching its first “comes with music” devices in the second half of this year.

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 Post subject: Re: Apple wants to be your BFF
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for the lifetime of the device. heh

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for the lifetime of the device. heh

mine still works :shock:


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Everything about this is disgusting.

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I thought the new Napster turned a fair amount of people off of the subscription model.


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Spike wrote:
vacatetheword wrote:
for the lifetime of the device. heh

mine still works :shock:

i'm on my third ipod. they basically stop working after a year or so.

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vacatetheword wrote:
Spike wrote:
vacatetheword wrote:
for the lifetime of the device. heh

mine still works :shock:

i'm on my third ipod. they basically stop working after a year or so.

at least they last longer than your relationships :/


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Spike wrote:
vacatetheword wrote:
Spike wrote:
vacatetheword wrote:
for the lifetime of the device. heh

mine still works :shock:

i'm on my third ipod. they basically stop working after a year or so.

at least they last longer than your relationships :/

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vacatetheword wrote:
Spike wrote:
vacatetheword wrote:
Spike wrote:
vacatetheword wrote:
for the lifetime of the device. heh

mine still works :shock:

i'm on my third ipod. they basically stop working after a year or so.

at least they last longer than your relationships :/

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My iPod is into it's 3rd year. I'd probably do this, depending upon the exact dollar value of this "premium."

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My iPod is into it's 3rd year. I'd probably do this, depending upon the exact dollar value of this "premium."


It sounds like the "premium" would only come with the sale of new iPods.

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Everything about this is disgusting.


I fear for artist compensation. Apple already wants to lower the amount per iTunes purchase that goes to the artist. I thought I remembered reading they want to cut it from 13 cents to 9 cents.

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B wrote:
My iPod is into it's 3rd year. I'd probably do this, depending upon the exact dollar value of this "premium."


It sounds like the "premium" would only come with the sale of new iPods.


Yeah, I know. Mine still works, but that doesn't mean I'm not getting tired of it.

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vacatetheword wrote:
for the lifetime of the device. heh

The thing is, every device has a predetermined "lifetime" measured in years. If apple says the life of an ipod is say 5 years, and yours is working after 6 years, its life is still technically over.

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