Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam, pronouns, and heteronormativity.
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:16 am
Yeah Yeah Yeah
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Dule and wae to the order, sent our lads to the border The English, for aince, by guile wan the day: The Flowers o' the Forest, that foucht aye the foremost The pride o' our land, are cauld in the clay.
Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam, pronouns, and heteronormativity.
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:42 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Joined: Tue May 30, 2006 2:48 pm Posts: 3115 Location: Edinburgh/Lincoln, UK
Ed's lyrics tend to be ambigious in regards to genders as well as meaning/interpretation. I'm applying this to Ed's 'love' songs as it seems most appropriate in this context. In using the pronouns 'you' or 'we' instead of 'he' or 'she' in songs like Parachutes, Come Back, Oceans etc..Ed allows the songs to become more easily accessible to all people regardless of gender or sexual orientation - and this serves him well as a writer. When Ed admitted that he wrote half of Self Titled with Johnny Ramone in mind we all saw these 'love' songs differently, right?
As i said, it's a writing skill more than anything, and it's why different people can see the same song as a song referring to war/love/death. It's also why Long Nights works so well in Into The Wild and Body Of War.
Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam, pronouns, and heteronormativity.
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:34 pm
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the you and we stuff has extra value beyond its ambiguity--it invites the listener into the song by directly making them the subject. It's a useful writing technique in any circumstance. It's good (although a little disengenuous) when making arguements in academic papers since it means if the reader disagrees with you they are disagreeing with themselves
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