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 Post subject: Empire magazine latest to publish a mostly questionable list
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:44 am 
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"The 50 Best TV Shows Of All Time", that is. For real, does it even happen anymore where a major print and/or online publication compiles one of these "best of" collections and more than half of it doesn't induce a major eye roll on how much they seemed to've gotten it wrong? And perhaps it's worth nothing, for those unaware, that Empire is out of the UK.

said list...


50. Quantum Leap
49. Prison Break
48. Veronica Mars
47. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
46. Sex and the City
45. Farscape
44. Cracker
43. Star Trek
42. Only Fools and Horses
41. Band of Brothers
40. Life On Mars
39. Monty Python’s Flying Circus
38. Curb Your Enthusiasm
37. Star Trek: The Next Generation
36. Father Ted
35. Alias
34. Frasier
33. CSI
32. Babylon 5
31. Deadwood
30. Dexter
29. ER
28. Fawlty Towers
27. Six Feet Under
26. Red Dwarf
25. Futurama
24. Twin Peaks
23. The Office
22. The Shield
21. Angel
20. Blackadder
19. Scrubs
18. Arrested Development
17. South Park
16. Doctor Who
15. Heroes
14. Firefly
13. Battlestar Galactica
12. Family Guy
11. Seinfeld
10. Spaced
09. The X-Files
08. The Wire
07. Friends
06. 24
05. Lost
04. The West Wing
03. The Sopranos
02. Buffy The Vampire Slayer
01. The Simpsons



Their story:
http://www.empireonline.com/50greatestt ... t.asp?tv=1

And for comparison, UGO.com's top 50:
http://www.ugo.com/tv/top50tvshows/

Time's 2007 top 100 list:
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/ ... 89,00.html

(and yea I won't even try to pretend I hunted those down on my own, both came via Aint It Cool News)


Sure, I ended up becoming a fan of HEROES after the fact (once I finally got time to start watching), but after merely 1+ seasons, #15 all time? ehhh... ? :shock:
And I haven't been a 24 fan really since midway thru season 2, so don't even get me started on that #6 slot. They may be taking the 'further miles logged' more into consideration they should for this one, but FAMILY GUY being a better show than ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT? You should have to be, well, arrested, for making a claim like that.
Sweet moses, PRISON BREAK even makes the list at all while NYPD BLUE is nowhere to be found? And hell I'm not really even a Blue fan, but generally as a student of television and film I can recognize its quality and influence in the landscape.
Though I very much am a fan of the original TWILIGHT ZONE, so its conspicuous absence should pretty much negate this entire list purely on principle.

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anything that puts scrubs, family guy, 24, or friends over deadwood is complete bullshit.

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any list that puts Curb at 38 and Friends in the Top 10 ahead of Seinfeld is laughable

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blame the readers of empire or the visitors of thier site, since it was voted by the public so to speak. i didn't vote. one big omission to me is Homicide: life on the street, and more early 90's show like Northern Esposure, those were the days

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I don't know.....regardless of the rankings most of my favorites were on there....just no M.A.S.H. or Twilight Zone which is kinda weird not to include....


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British magazines are *constantly* doing 'best of' lists..ad nauseum...this is why nobody with any sense buys them anymore...

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Are there any shows from before the 90's on that list?

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British magazines are *constantly* doing 'best of' lists..ad nauseum...this is why nobody with any sense buys them anymore...


Kind of like posting you see around here?

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I can't complain too hard when Battlestar, Father Ted, Star Trek, Red Dwarf, Flying Circus, South Park, even Firefly are all listed.


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Is it true theres an american version of Father Ted?

please say it aint so..it'd never work...

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dimejinky99 wrote:
Is it true theres an american version of Father Ted?

please say it aint so..it'd never work...


It ain't. I want to say they made a pilot that didn't work out, but I think that's Red Dwarf.

Americans would get way too upset about it.


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law & order?

i don't watch much television but that list looks terrible to me.

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No M*A*S*H makes this list worthless to me.

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friends is ahead of seinfeld because its a UK list. friends is replayed constantly on british tv while seinfeld is only played on some of the cable channels that not everyone has.

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24 over the x-files???...shitty list (coming from the guy with a jack bauer fact on his sig..)

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Monkey_Driven wrote:
No M*A*S*H makes this list worthless to me.


Holy crap how did I miss that one initially? But yea CHEERS is pretty much my favorite sitcom of all time, and definitely MASH is high up there as well, and both of their absence makes this absolutely laughable.

And to the person who remarked is there anything on there that didn't start in the 90's -- no doubt, man. These people are aware that television isn't only two decades old, right? :?

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Stopped reading when I saw the claim that Band of Brothers ranked lower than CSI.

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Stopped reading when I saw the claim that Band of Brothers ranked lower than CSI.

isnt band of brothers a mini series? should that even count?

and where the fuck is Alf?

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