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 Post subject: Honest to God Posting for Politics/Civil Rights Course pt. 3
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:39 pm 
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Its that time again, today's topic is "whether or not the Federal response to Little Rock was appropriate following Brown v. Board of Education". My favorite classmate hasn't posted this week, so I just picked someone at random. I completely disagree with their response so I would like to see what you think.



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I do agree with the federal government's response to integrating Little Rock to be appropriate. In my opinion, Eisenhower should have sent in federal troops much earlier than he did. But, as most politicians are, he was more concerned about votes than upholding constitutional rights Sending in federal troops and forcing integration of Central High School was in no way a violation of States' rights. The States are to by law abide by the rulings of the Supreme Court. Faubus, with the support of many state officials from other Southern States, publicly ignored and opposed the direct ruling of the Supreme Court. In a case of such blatant defiance as displayed by Faubus and the people of Little Rock, how could the federal government not use force to uphold the laws of this country? Otherwise, the defiance would have continued in other states. It is not the States' rights to over turn the rulings of the Supreme Court.

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Why don't you say why you disagree with it, or are you afraid everyone will laugh at you?

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I thought we were on Part 4. ;)

And, since I knew nothing about what happened here, it might be good to provide a bit of background:

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~bfuentes/fedandstate.html


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PJDoll wrote:
Why don't you say why you disagree with it, or are you afraid everyone will laugh at you?


My god, you really are clever. :arrow:

I wanted to see if someone would come to a similar conclusion but you have successfully solicited my response.

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I do not think the federal response to the problems in Little Rock
was appropriate. I am against the use of regular federal troops,
professional soldiers (in this case none other than the 101st Airborne Division),against the civilian population at ANY time. Allowing the government too ccupy the city forced its inhabititants into what was essentially a police state, this cannot be justified. These are precisely the kind of tactics which the revolutionaries fought to prohibit. This act was
repugnant to the civil liberties of all residents as afforded by our
Constitution. It set a terrible precedent, and although it was
effective, I do not believe it was absolutely necessary. Federally
imposed sanctions effectively neutering funding in the state could have
forced the area into compliance, and the National Gaurd could
have been employed to keep the peace instead of regular armed forces.
Only in the most dire of circumstances, where the safety of our nation
as a whole is called into jeopardy should federal troops be used.
States such as Kansas and Nebraska were capable of grudgingly making
this transition and Arkansas could have been coaxed into doing so as well. You cannot justify action to ensure the rights of those mistreated by violating the rights of all.

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Green Habit wrote:
I thought we were on Part 4. ;)

And, since I knew nothing about what happened here, it might be good to provide a bit of background:

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~bfuentes/fedandstate.html


Thank you, and for a brief synopsis of selected quotes from Warren's opinion please refer to http://www.landmarkcases.org/brown/opinion1.html

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Wasn't it the National Guard? And isn't that what they are for?


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DBF,

This thread isn't funny, dammit! This is a real and difficult political question with solid arguments on both sides. You're only supposed to bring us the really retarded responses to the questions.

No more posting under this heading until that dumb girl comes back. :evil:

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punkdavid wrote:
DBF,

This thread isn't funny, dammit! This is a real and difficult political question with solid arguments on both sides. You're only supposed to bring us the really retarded responses to the questions.

No more posting under this heading until that dumb girl comes back. :evil:

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I know. I expected something ridiculous.


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Cartman wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
DBF,

This thread isn't funny, dammit! This is a real and difficult political question with solid arguments on both sides. You're only supposed to bring us the really retarded responses to the questions.

No more posting under this heading until that dumb girl comes back. :evil:

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I know. I expected something ridiculous.


Well come on, I figured the solid arguments and responses could spark conversation. EGADS MAN! What if she remains reasonable for the rest of the semester!!?! :cry:

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deathbyflannel wrote:
Cartman wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
DBF,

This thread isn't funny, dammit! This is a real and difficult political question with solid arguments on both sides. You're only supposed to bring us the really retarded responses to the questions.

No more posting under this heading until that dumb girl comes back. :evil:

--PunkDavid


I know. I expected something ridiculous.


Well come on, I figured the solid arguments and responses could spark conversation. EGADS MAN! What if she remains reasonable for the rest of the semester!!?! :cry:


Then we'll see your sorry ass in the fall, with quotes from the idiot in Torts 1. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Honest to God Posting for Politics/Civil Rights Course p
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someoneElse wrote:
The States are to by law abide by the rulings of the Supreme Court. Faubus, with the support of many state officials from other Southern States, publicly ignored and opposed the direct ruling of the Supreme Court.


Ha! She talked about state requirements of due process without even mentioning the 14th Amendment!

Idiot!





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I found a better post for this topic

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I agree how the federal government choose to deal with integrating Little Rock was a wise one. Since not only once but twice Judge Ronald Davies had order desegregation of Central High. Eisenhower ought have intervened a lot sooner, even though there was many mob threats and violence at that time that is no excuse. President Eisenhower was more worried of what people would think as opposed to keeping his citizens safe. He wanted everyone to be like and admire my all. He first went out to gain the approval of the republican white southerners and he came to the rescue. When President Eisenhowerfinally came to care for his citizen, he order about 10,000 guards to come and protect blacks in the school. This however was not enough to stop the white students form bullying the black students. In conclusion I feel the federal government did everything.within their power it was the local who were at fault.

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deathbyflannel wrote:
I found a better post for this topic

newIdiot wrote:

I agree how the federal government choose to deal with integrating Little Rock was a wise one. Since not only once but twice Judge Ronald Davies had order desegregation of Central High. Eisenhower ought have intervened a lot sooner, even though there was many mob threats and violence at that time that is no excuse. President Eisenhower was more worried of what people would think as opposed to keeping his citizens safe. He wanted everyone to be like and admire my all. He first went out to gain the approval of the republican white southerners and he came to the rescue. When President Eisenhowerfinally came to care for his citizen, he order about 10,000 guards to come and protect blacks in the school. This however was not enough to stop the white students form bullying the black students. In conclusion I feel the federal government did everything.within their power it was the local who were at fault.


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