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 Post subject: Why does the US support Israel?
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:56 am 
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I've been wondering this as of late.

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Only western-style Democracy in the middle of the most oil-rich region on earth.

There are more Jews in the United States than the rest of the world combined, and Israel is the Jewish state?

Because back in the 50's the Egyptians, Syrians, and other Arab states hitched their wagons to the Soviets, and the Israelis to the west?

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Sounds about right.

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This thread is a classic example of David unzipping his tweed trousers, pulling out his rather large circumsized penis, and plopping it proudly upon its weak supports. The damage was complete and total.

It is not that this thread was an attempt without valor, Nate, but rather that it simply was not built to withstand that kind of phallic fury.


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Interesting, I was actually just asking.

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Why is the holocaust the most recognized travesty in human history and why are so many movies made about it when there have been other large scale genocides gone mostly unspoken about?


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Dev wrote:
Why is the holocaust the most recognized travesty in human history and why are so many movies made about it when there have been other large scale genocides gone mostly unspoken about?


Either

A) Jew conspiracy

or

B) it fits really nicely into the ultimate "good versus evil" argument that's afflicted every conflict the United States has gotten itself into since WWII

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Dev wrote:
Why is the holocaust the most recognized travesty in human history and why are so many movies made about it when there have been other large scale genocides gone mostly unspoken about?

alan dershowitz referencing the holocaust and other genocides: “Six million additional people have died since the end of the Second World War because of this obsessive focus on Israel."

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Only western-style Democracy in the middle of the most oil-rich region on earth.

There are more Jews in the United States than the rest of the world combined, and Israel is the Jewish state?

Because back in the 50's the Egyptians, Syrians, and other Arab states hitched their wagons to the Soviets, and the Israelis to the west?


true. although obama bin laden recently said that our support for Israel is the main reason for fighting us. without abandoning Israel, we should be forcing them into a peaceful, fair solution with Palestinians.

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Dev wrote:
Why is the holocaust the most recognized travesty in human history and why are so many movies made about it when there have been other large scale genocides gone mostly unspoken about?


for example???

I think the holocaust is the most known and most documented genocidal act in history.

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jlew24asu wrote:
Dev wrote:
Why is the holocaust the most recognized travesty in human history and why are so many movies made about it when there have been other large scale genocides gone mostly unspoken about?


for example???

I think the holocaust is the most known and most documented genocidal act in history.

then comes the message pit bannings in the last couple months......

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jlew24asu wrote:
Dev wrote:
Why is the holocaust the most recognized travesty in human history and why are so many movies made about it when there have been other large scale genocides gone mostly unspoken about?


for example???

I think the holocaust is the most known and most documented genocidal act in history.


Armenian Genocide-over 500,000 killed, some estimate as many as 1.5 million.
Japanese War Crimes of WWII-at least 20 million killed across Southeast Asia
Khmer Rouge-killed an estimated 1.5 million Cambodians

There's lots more as well, depending on what you want to include.

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Orpheus wrote:
jlew24asu wrote:
Dev wrote:
Why is the holocaust the most recognized travesty in human history and why are so many movies made about it when there have been other large scale genocides gone mostly unspoken about?


for example???

I think the holocaust is the most known and most documented genocidal act in history.


Armenian Genocide-over 500,000 killed, some estimate as many as 1.5 million.
Japanese War Crimes of WWII-at least 20 million killed across Southeast Asia
Khmer Rouge-killed an estimated 1.5 million Cambodians

There's lots more as well, depending on what you want to include.


But the Japanese got nuked. They're victims too, yanno.


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 Post subject: Re: Why does the US support Israel?
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this is good news..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080521/ap_ ... rael_syria

ERUSALEM - Israel and Syria on Wednesday said they were holding indirect peace talks through Turkish mediators — the first official confirmation of contacts between the longtime enemies.
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In statements issued minutes apart, the two governments said they "have declared their intent to conduct these talks in good faith and with an open mind," with a goal of reaching "a comprehensive peace."

Both nations thanked Turkey for its help, and Turkey issued its own confirmation. Muslim Turkey has good ties with both Israel and Syria.

There have been reports in recent months of new Israeli-Syrian contacts through Turkey, and Turkey's foreign minister said earlier this month that his country was trying to bring the sides together. But this was the first official confirmation that contacts have resumed.

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Orpheus wrote:

Armenian Genocide-over 500,000 killed, some estimate as many as 1.5 million.
Japanese War Crimes of WWII-at least 20 million killed across Southeast Asia
Khmer Rouge-killed an estimated 1.5 million Cambodians

There's lots more as well, depending on what you want to include.


right. I'm not saying they didnt happen I just think americans and the world in general know more about the holocaust and lived it. the nazis documented everything.

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 Post subject: Re: Why does the US support Israel?
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Well, that was kind of the point. The other genocides are largely ignored.

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there's about as many jews in the u.s. as there are in israel. perhaps that has something to do with it.

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jlew24asu wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
Only western-style Democracy in the middle of the most oil-rich region on earth.

There are more Jews in the United States than the rest of the world combined, and Israel is the Jewish state?

Because back in the 50's the Egyptians, Syrians, and other Arab states hitched their wagons to the Soviets, and the Israelis to the west?


true. although obama bin laden recently said that our support for Israel is the main reason for fighting us. without abandoning Israel, we should be forcing them into a peaceful, fair solution with Palestinians.


And just what is this fair and peaceful solution?


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jlew24asu wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
Only western-style Democracy in the middle of the most oil-rich region on earth.

There are more Jews in the United States than the rest of the world combined, and Israel is the Jewish state?

Because back in the 50's the Egyptians, Syrians, and other Arab states hitched their wagons to the Soviets, and the Israelis to the west?


true. although obama bin laden recently said that our support for Israel is the main reason for fighting us. without abandoning Israel, we should be forcing them into a peaceful, fair solution with Palestinians.


And just what is this fair and peaceful solution?


Give Israel's land back to Palestine and support an Israeli invasion of Germany?

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Give Israel's land back to Palestine and support an Israeli invasion of Germany?


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