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by position. and i'm not talking about his performance just this week, this month, or this season alone. i'm talking overall, the best player at each position. some tough calls to make here:
c: brian mccann (mauer? martin?) 1b: albert pujols (berkman?) 2b: chase utley ss: hanley ramirez 3b: alex rodriguez (wright?) lf: matt holliday cf: grady sizemore rf: vladimir guerrero sp: johan santana (peavy? webb? beckett? hamels? lincecum?) rp: no clue here. mariano rivera? jonathan papelbon?
i just wanted to make the thread after i saw tubbs' on basketball, so i'll leave some lifting to you.
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Koufax wrote:
Russ Martin is far better than McCann. and im not being a homer. everyone knows I hate my friggin teams guts these days
martin's career OPS is about 40 points lower than mccann's. mccann's vorp is also 28, while martin's is 20.6
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SP is tough. If its a "you have to win one game" kinda thing, I want Beckett. Best regular season, I'd probably take Brandon Webb right now.
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pearljamfan80 wrote:
Webb's sinker is disgusting. It would be a toss-up between him and Beckett right now.
uh ... you may not like them, but you forgot johan santana and jake peavy. peavy has about 200 more Ks in his career and 30 less walks than webb, while santana has roughly the same amount of walks as webb, but about 500 more Ks.
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
pearljamfan80 wrote:
Webb's sinker is disgusting. It would be a toss-up between him and Beckett right now.
uh ... you may not like them, but you forgot johan santana and jake peavy. peavy has about 200 more Ks in his career and 30 less walks than webb, while santana has roughly the same amount of walks as webb, but about 500 more Ks.
I'm indifferent to them. And yeah, that's a big oversight on my part.
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pearljamfan80 wrote:
Vlad is pretty solidified at RF.
Now that the Mariners have moved Ichiro back to right I'd take him over Vlad.
Ah I still thought they had him in center(haven't been following the AL West as much). Then it becomes debatable. Ichiro is a better defender and a slightly better hitter. But Vlad hits for more power.
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Webb's sinker is disgusting. It would be a toss-up between him and Beckett right now.
uh ... you may not like them, but you forgot johan santana and jake peavy. peavy has about 200 more Ks in his career and 30 less walks than webb, while santana has roughly the same amount of walks as webb, but about 500 more Ks.
This time 2 years ago, I'd take Santana. And it's not that he's really fallen much, I think its more about Webb rising. Peavy is sick too. I don't think you can really go wrong taking any of the 3.
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ichiro is not a better hitter than vlad. vlad's got 150 points in OPS on ichiro, and the defensive differences have been minor.
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aprilfifth wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
pearljamfan80 wrote:
Webb's sinker is disgusting. It would be a toss-up between him and Beckett right now.
uh ... you may not like them, but you forgot johan santana and jake peavy. peavy has about 200 more Ks in his career and 30 less walks than webb, while santana has roughly the same amount of walks as webb, but about 500 more Ks.
This time 2 years ago, I'd take Santana. And it's not that he's really fallen much, I think its more about Webb rising. Peavy is sick too. I don't think you can really go wrong taking any of the 3.
santana and webb have been pretty similar pitchers so far this year, if we include last year, santana is better than webb over the past two years.
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A Rod is still a short stop and he's probably better there than Jeter, the only reason he's not playing SS is politics. I don't think he's as good at 3rd.
ichiro is not a better hitter than vlad. vlad's got 150 points in OPS on ichiro, and the defensive differences have been minor.
I'm basing it on right now which to me determines who the best overall player at the position is. Right now Vlad is facing a much steeper decline than Ichiro is. Right now I'd take Ichiro. His arm, while not freakish like Vlad's, is still very good. He can cover more ground in the field and is 30/32 in steals this season.
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