Here's an answer to all those weird flash movies you post.

Seriously, good read. Popular Mechanics.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... page=1&c=y

Excerpt:

From the moment the first airplane crashed into the World Trade Center on the morning of September 11, 2001, the world has asked one simple and compelling question: How could it happen?

Three and a half years later, not everyone is convinced we know the truth. Go to Google.com, type in the search phrase "World Trade Center conspiracy" and you'll get links to an estimated 628,000 Web sites. More than 3000 books on 9/11 have been published; many of them reject the official consensus that hijackers associated with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda flew passenger planes into U.S. landmarks.

Healthy skepticism, it seems, has curdled into paranoia. Wild conspiracy tales are peddled daily on the Internet, talk radio and in other media. Blurry photos, quotes taken out of context and sketchy eyewitness accounts have inspired a slew of elaborate theories: The Pentagon was struck by a missile; the World Trade Center was razed by demolition-style bombs; Flight 93 was shot down by a mysterious white jet. As outlandish as these claims may sound, they are increasingly accepted abroad and among extremists here in the United States.

To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.

In the end, we were able to debunk each of these assertions with hard evidence and a healthy dose of common sense. We learned that a few theories are based on something as innocent as a reporting error on that chaotic day. Others are the byproducts of cynical imaginations that aim to inject suspicion and animosity into public debate. Only by confronting such poisonous claims with irrefutable facts can we understand what really happened on a day that is forever seared into world history.--THE EDITORS

my favorite quote outta that article so far

Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University.

Mine is this:



These guys are in the same group as the folks who deny the holocaust.

but of course dubya and others in the admin are ghost partners in owning PM

PM?

did you even read the article?

Yeah, I read it. And now that I re-read it, I realize that you are abbreviating Popular Mechanics to PM. What makes you think that W. and Co. are silent partners in owning Popular Mechanics?

obviously sarcasm could smack you right in the face and you wouldnt have a clue

Good article. I'm still a bit skeptical about the WTC7 collapse, but they provide a reasonable explanation.

--PunkDavid

Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone PD, alone.

Uh-huh. And John Lennon and President Reagan both just happened to be shot by crazed loners who have no memory of the incidents, three months apart. Gotcha.

--PunkDavid

Case closed . . .

Interesting read, thanks for posting it, CW.

Damn right!

Here is a great rubuttle to some of the things that PM got completely wrong: http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/index.html

Some of the theories they chose to use are just absurd, and they did it to try and cast a lonney doubt claim on all theories, that don't fly with the official one. Like a pod underneith the plane.

"The article gives no hint of the put options on the targeted airlines, warnings received by government and corporate officials, complicit behavior by top officials, obstruction of justice by a much larger group, or obvious frauds in the official story."

Kinda left all those out, but who cares, case closed right? Wrong. Anyone who can think that a conspiracy of mass scale was not and is not taking place, is obviously not paying attention. With SO much evidence out there. For someone to pick up PM and say, case closed, seems irresponsible. This is way past the Pentagon b.s. Why not just start with the hijackers, we don't know who got on those planes, period. By that alone we don't know who committed the acts of 9/11. Especially with Bin Laden denying all involvement on more then two occasions.

With so many leads NOT followed. With so much secrecy. With so much stonewalling. How can you guys not begin to look closer at that day, and what happened. If you can prove just one part of the official story to be false, isn't it safe to say that more parts are just as equally inaccurate? I just can't believe I'm the only one on this board who wants answers, and is gonna keep asking till I get them. While most it seems are fine with complacency. So be it.

The problem is that you are so convinced that there was mass-conspiracy orchestrated by the government that you're never going to be satisfied with any answer whatsoever because it may actually reflect the truth (i.e., there's never going to be an answer you like).

To be honest. Any sort of answers, regardless of there veracity, that the Bush Administration would reveal I would take it with a bit of skepticism. Only because of the almot 4 years of denial and stonewalling. But that's not to say I wouldn't investigate and consider the omission to be completely false, but definetly would not give it benefit of the doub.t It would have to be above all logical. Unlike the 9/11 Report. Which, yes, I've read, and yes, I find to be leaving out MANY things. These blatant ommissions bother me.

We've all seen the Zappruder film. The majority of us can conclude beyond a shadow of a doubt that a conspiracy exists surrounding the assassination of JFK. Yet, what has it done? Nothing. Where has it gotten us? Nowhere. We have the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES murdered. Who's responsible, who did it? We don't know. The only thing we know is that it wasn't Oswald. We have a Government/MIC operation coup take place, and the people just sit back and take it. I have read a lot about who did it, and have some a very good idea. What I'm getting at is this, what's to stop this type of mayhem to take place again on a larger scale to get what some feel is needed for this country, a war, contracts, oil, POWER. Look what happened with Kennedy, gonna pull all those "advisors" outta Vietnam, and let us not forget Bay of Pigs and everything going down in Cuba. That really pissed a lotta people off. Put Johnson in office, full escalation of the war. On faulty information no less. Kinda reminds me of 9/11 then Iraq. The People would never support an invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq without an catalyzing event to take place to galvanize that support. I think many of you see the picture I am laying out. Call it what you want. But one cannot deny the greed of modern man. Or history of your foreign adventures, from Pearl Harbor to Iraq. We only need to look at what we've done to realize that post WWII, it's been pretty fucked up what we've done to a lot of countries under the banner of National Security. Yet, rarely is that thought of when creating new theaters of death. Because those that are dying will not be the ones who make this death happen. They will live safe and secure with the best protection those people who are dying taxes can afford.

Not that I think anything but a plane hit the Pentagon, but that how hard would it be to photoshop a piece of plane fusilage into an empty lawn on a sunny day?

--PunkDavid

Are you saying a Ty-Fighter didn't hit the Pentagon? Damn you to hell!