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Courtney Love: Ryan Adams Stole $858k From Frances Bean

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Courtney Love, one of rock's great OG bloggers, posted another brilliant (not brilliant) open letter on MySpace. In it she accuses fellow blogger/musician Ryan Adams of using $858,000 of Frances Bean Cobain's money to fund his 2003 album Rock n Roll, "one of the worst records i can think of in rock and roll history." Ryan's gear, hotels, drugs, dinners at Nobu ... all expensed to Courtney, stolen STRAIGHT OUT OF FRANCES"S TRUST FUND. Courtney has 29 AMEX cards, so it took a few years for her to notice.

Ex-boyfriends Ed Norton, Billy Corgan, and "Gollum" (Jim Barber, who produced Rock n Roll) all get name-checked in the diatribe. (Ryan and Courtney had "very safe sex" too, it is revealed.) A highlight of her overshare:

does that makje youf eel like a big man ? stealing from a suicide? A MARTYRED HERO? ... as God Is My Witness Ryan you will pay back every fucking penny of this. 858,000 dollars for Rock n Roll ? wow you were living large- most people reading this dont even know what record or even artist im referring to , as your just this cult americana wanna be dylan thing-
still shooting smack? hows that going for you?


Full text of Courtney's missive after the jump. She says she'll be in NY next week and is willing to work out a payment plan.

Saturday, July 19, 2008 Ryan Adams you fucking weasel. deal with it.858,00$ Current mood: determined
Listen this is another open letter
this to a beyond mediocre piece of shite- maybe its just my moment to fucking get the knives out of my back,
but in any case between 00 and 04 before ....well a dark pit of shit and fake names and insanity follows with lots and lots of people counting on Kookoo cherry not being able to prove things- and thats for another day- those people have not played chess with me.
But i was sitting with some people going thru the 29 american express cards that i didnt know existed that were connected to a few HUNDRED bank accounts,and there were all the bills for Ryan Adams worst record and one of the worst records i can think of in rock and roll history ironically called"Riock and Roll " and it was paid for by ME and mostly by my child.
and when i met Ryan we had a mild little flirtation, why not? but i made the deathly stupid decision to instead of just have very safe sex with him ( hes pretty dirty and man ive been around but im the virgin mary comparitevly) or make friends. no i fucking pimped my useless , ridiculaously terrible loser "Boyfriend" ( who ironically Edward Norton hates no one any more than this fuck and for good reason , yet Edwards OWN business manager put Barber up on West XXth street kitty corner from Edward, Barber could see into Edwards Apartment, and then he had his own Dean and Deluca account and an ABC Carpetand Home account and spent about 250,000 on furniture and another 600,000 dollars on travel, this loser who hasnt had a job since 98 - while Frances didnt have hardly enough to eat and i sure as hell didnt) i pimped Barber onto Ryan,"oooh hes a great producer"- maybe it wasbnt honourable0 i just wanted Barber gone, so maybe i used Ryan to get him gone,
yeah you listen to this shit im listening to my i tunes on right now who names a record "Rock n Roll" what assholes do that?
with these trebled up guitars my bandmate said sounded like "really horrific rem on steroids" all treble and compresssion and shit wirtten songs - but so what?
well on my amex atthat time the 858 but also from bank accounts....theres 200,000 thousnad dollar checks written to Barber for "comissions" ididnt even know where the fuck he was ! but here on Amex 28 is the entire invoice for Ryan- your ENTIRE album and meals and drugs and Hotels and outboard gear and wasted fabullous guitars STRAIGHT OUT OF FRANCES"S TRUST FUND
So you little shit, maybe you had NO IDEA right? is that why you used a hysterical voice mail of a very terrified and flipped out me- for your worst reviewed record and well deserved too, this record is shite totally one of the worst recordings ive ever heard yet Ryan you YOU spent 858,000 dolllars on this record of MY DAUGHTERS MONEY. so whats your paying me back plan? illbe in New York next week , you can start by working out your payment plan, because i will litiagate your thieving ass from here til eternity, your a thief and i used to think you had some subtsance to you then i find out your being managed or your money is by Victoria Blake? is that POSSIBLE? whata great PAL that lizard like cretin is t o you and i hope you had fun that week in :Jamaica" whilst more of my kids money was being shoved offshore- but thats not the point- Billy may have made my kid cry but i wasn't in the room - he's family and he always will be- he just laid his Billy trip on a person a little too young for it- I'm over it. but YOU RYAN, OWE FRANCES 858<000 dollars , so should isend the amex copies to Blake and he "staff"? because i would enjoy that very much,what a really good friend to leave you with someone whose been diagnosed as an "utter psychotic" by a professional foresnic psychiatrist.
This record sucks i mean WOW!
is this what youd like me to tell my kid a fraction of her money was stolen for this shite "Rock N Roll " cd shall i post the outboard gear and 4 seasons billls and fancy Nobu dinners, ahh so thats why you released two records at once where you getting paid a salary to let Gollum "produce" you cos we both know what a reall fucking genius that guy is, and this isnt about Gollum- hes inthe hands of the professionals, i walk away now knowing everything, all of it , its disgusting and its a fucking nuclear explosion of greed i dont think american history has ever seen but no other artist was ever involved in this scandalous vile behaviour ......but you were and i note to self; you suck on this record with your bile towards me, ande its gutless and cowardly and shit, and you know it,
Pay me back Ryan, Pay Frances back. an dtake my fucking voice off that piece of shit.
everyone in the world knows your giving your all and your all just isnt enough and you just keeep chugging- keep playng mediocre safe music some of wich i like- d an d then i saw these amex bills. it s makes me so sick you used my voice on this, really disgusting and horrific, you knew what they were doing to me and frances, and yet you just spent our money HER money in this specific case- does that makje youf eel like a big man ? stealing from a suicide? A MARTYRED HERO? fun for you. big man. wow. impressive.
Yeah well theres nothing good about suicide and i should know- but to take my near suicidal depression and use it on my daughters paying fo ryour shit record, you get the point you can find me im sure- and ill be happy to work out a payment plan
But as God Is My Witness Ryan you will pay back every fucking penny of this. 858,000 dollars for Rock n Roll ? wow you were living large- most people reading this dont even know what record or even artist im referring to , as your just this cult americana wanna be dylan thing- i think you have value as an artist but as a human your beneath contempt- let me know if im incorrect about the fact that you knew full and well that Barber /Gollum was using my money to pay for your self admitedly shit record- and let me know if i am wrong and your not with Blake, if you are your certainly getting what yousdeserve! no wonder you look like utter shit, and healthy as jaundice, HEY YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GO DOWN ITS HYSTERICAL. an excellent lyric wouldnt you think.?
still shooting smack? hows that going for you?


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Summer of 69 is a classic. hehe

Where does Courtney Love get off?


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:lol: Ryan Adams sucks, but goddamn if that wasn't a hilarious rant.

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she should worry more about not turning her daughter into a psychopathic bitch like herself

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This seems pretty unlikely.


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Imagine being so wealthy that someone could charge almost a million dollars to your credit card and it takes you a couple of years to notice...


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Imagine being so wealthy that someone could charge almost a million dollars to your credit card and it takes you a couple of years to notice...


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This seems pretty unlikely.

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zeb wrote:
This seems pretty unlikely.


There is no fucking way Ryan Adams stole close to a million dollars from anyone, let alone Kurt Cobain's kid.

If there is ANYTHING to this story - the trust of Francis might have produced and financed the entire record and it ended up to be a flop (it is his worst record) and she is now pissed that the money hasn't been recouped.

Ryan Adams doesn't spend $1,000,000 making a record. He makes records in 10 days. This is still some of the funniest (saddest) shit in a long time.

Ryan is not a shy guy - I can't wait to see how he responds to this. If he stays silent - and somehow we read about a settlement - I'll be very disappointed but I put the odds of that at ZERO.

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Ha- to my point:

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Ryan Adams hasn't e-mailed me his side of the story, but reader Stephen B helpfully points to this old RA interview from USA Today:

"Whether I have a label behind me or not, I'm going to do this anyway," he says. "I'm going to find the money to make records."

For Rock N Roll, he found the money in his wallet. After tinkering on a four-track recorder in his basement with drummer Johnny T. Yerington, Adams opted for a studio test run.

"I didn't tell the label anything about it," he says. "I just got an idea to go into the studio and see how it sounded on analog tape. I put a weekend of studio time on my credit card and walked out with an 11-song record."


http://stereogum.com/archives/wheres-the-beef/courtney-love-still-pissed-at-ryan-adams-blogging_011146.html

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Does Billy Corgan still live with this shit stain? They really do diserve each other.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080723/ap_ ... rtney_love

Related news? Maybe she's trying to get money off him to pay this one off?

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how is courtney able to spend money that's "in trust" with a credit card? and seeing as how the money belonged to Frances, wouldn't Courtney be considered the actual thief and not Ryan Adams.

a lot of things don't make sense about this story. sounds to me like she's just sour about a bad investment. maybe when Frances turns 18 she'll have the sense to hire a competent accountant.


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how is courtney able to spend money that's "in trust" with a credit card? and seeing as how the money belonged to Frances, wouldn't Courtney be considered the actual thief and not Ryan Adams.

a lot of things don't make sense about this story. sounds to me like she's just sour about a bad investment. maybe when Frances turns 18 she'll have the sense to hire a competent accountant.


That's exactly what I was thinking. You can't use AMEX cards through a trust fund. If anything, Courtney is using Frances for the guilt trip... "stealing from a suicide", I mean c'mon!?

I don't usually say things like this, but maybe everyone would be better off if Courtney just did the right thing and Cobain'ed herself.

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:lol: Ryan Adams sucks, but goddamn if that wasn't a hilarious rant.

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