Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:14 am Posts: 37778 Location: OmaGOD!!! Gender: Male
Which vs. That
This drives me nuts. I hate when people use the word "which" when they should be using teh word "that". It's like people who use "I" instead of "me" because they think it makes them sound like they use good grammar, when in fact they are using poor grammar.
"Which" should be used to start a clause following a comma, and the previous clause should stand on its own without the which clause.
Example: I live in Phoenix, which is the capital of Arizona.
INCORRECT EXAMPLE: Contractor shall give all notices and comply with all laws, regulations and ordinances which govern the proper execution of the Work...
A teacher once taught me to go on "which hunts" in my papers to find incorrect uses of the word "which".
The reason I'm bitching about this right now is because I am forever finding misplaced "whiches" in legal documents that I have to review and/or edit. It's one thing to make this mistake in a blog post, but in a legal document? Come on, you're being paid for your mastery of the English language. Get it right.
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INCORRECT EXAMPLE: Contractor shall give all notices and comply with all laws, regulations and ordinances which govern the proper execution of the Work...
I consider myself to be good with grammar....or maybe I considered myself to be good with grammar. I would have had NO IDEA that sentence was grammatically incorrect. I think I'm very guilty of this which/that crime you speak of.
It sounds so good. How could I have been so wrong?!
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Thanks to my profession I've become permanently attached to AP Style. The difference between fewer and less... more than and over... lay and lie... the correct abbreviation of states (it's Calif., not CA, people)... drives me up the goddamn Great Wall of China.
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:44 am Posts: 3539 Location: England Gender: Female
given2trade wrote:
Fortuna69 wrote:
I hate it when people confuse 'then' and 'than'.
That one sucks too but not nearly as bad as you're/your
their/there/they're is on the same level as then/than
Oh don't you start. I was involved in a really long argument about it on the other board. It was hilarious! It must have been nearly twenty pages long.
Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:03 am Posts: 18376 Location: outta space Gender: Male
pd, i always assumed you were above us all. now i feel like you peed the grammar rug and rubbed our noses in it, just to remind us what we all know deep inside. that we like the smell of pee.
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Joined: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:37 am Posts: 3610 Location: London, UK Gender: Female
ok PD, I have a question for the grammar teacher
what about for which? (I'm not taking the piss, I'm really asking.. English is my second language, I had mostly vocabulary lessons, the grammar I picked up using it)
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