1st Sports Tournament- NBA All-Time Players 2nd Sports Tournament- NHL All-Time Players 3rd Sports Tournament- MLB All-Time Players ----- NFL All-Time Players Tournament: Official Rules: -If you want to team with another RM you can do so, or you can go at it by yourself. -Make sure that you click on 'Subscribe to topic' this will let you know if a new post is made in this thread (especially do this when we start up the Draft thread). -Signup Sheet: 16 spots open with expansion possible if there are more that would like to join. -First Come First Serve to fill the league. -12 Hour Draft Pick Deadline. -Draft Order Will Be Determined by taking Sign-Up List and doing a random.org/list order. -Snake Style Draft Order (Rnd 1: 1-16, Rnd 2: 16-1, Rnd 3: 1-16, etc. etc.). -Please PM me if you see your turn coming up soon, but you don't think you'll be on. -PENALTY - If you miss your designated draft time and go over the deadline, the draft moves on, you'll be able to make-up your "missed" pick whenever, but the following round your draft order spot gets dropped to the bottom of that round. -Draft Format: 1. Player 2. Position 3. Years Played -The objective is to pick the best team possible using NFL/AFL players. The players may be active or retired. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/) -# of Draft Rounds will be determined by the amount of positions that make up a team. As it stands now, Positional Breakdown for the draft: (QB, RB, 2-WR, O.FLEX (RB, WR, or TE), 2-OL, 2DL, 2DB, 2LB, D.FLEX (LB, DB, or DL)). -Drafts will have an 14 Rounds. -This is the Official Announcement/PM that you'll receive when it is your turn:
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[b][u]ROUND #[/b][/u] [b]Name of Recent Team[/b] has made a pick at 12:00a/pm (EST).
On The Clock, A PM has been sent to [b]AL Team On The Clock[/b] and has until 12:00p/am (EST) to make a pick, (12-Hour Deadline) the [u][i]weekend rule[/i][/u] is no longer in affect, so the [i]PENALTY[/i] will be issued if deadline is exceeded.
*[mp3]http://home.comcast.net/~finallyimritfw/32-Jeopardy.mp3[/mp3]* ---------- [u][i]weekend rule[/i][/u] = It's a 24 Hour On The Clock Deadline, and the PENALTY will be waived.
1. Malcolm Sex - Jim Brown, RB 2. Self Polluted - Lawrence Taylor, LB 3. Too Big a Man Too Say - Walter Payton, RB 4. PJeff - Jerry Rice, WR 5. Green Habit - Anthony Muñoz, LT 6. corduroy_blazer - Barry Sanders, RB 7. SweetReminisce87 - John Elway, QB 8. Peter Van Wieren - Joe Greene, DT 9. ms11781 - Joe Montana, QB 10. Wes C. Addle - Reggie White, DE 11. parchy - Johnny Unitas, QB, 1956-1973 12. pearljamfan80 - Bruce Matthews, OL, 1983-2001 13. pearljamfan80 - Randy White, DL, 1975-1988 14. parchy - Bob Lilly, DT, 1961-1974 15. Wes C. Addle - John Hannah, G, 1973-1985 16. ms11781 - Don Hutson, WR-DB-DE, 1935-1945 17. Peter Van Wieren - Steve Young, QB, 1985-1999 18. SweetReminisce87 - Deion Sanders, CB, 1989-2005 19. corduroy_blazer - Randy Moss, WR, 1998-Current 20. Green Habit - Peyton Manning, QB, 1998-Current 21. PJeff - Jack Lambert, LB, 1974-1984 22. Too Big a Man Too Say - Dan Marino, QB, 1983-1999 23. Self Polluted - Ronnie Lott, DB, 1981-1994 24. Malcolm Sex - Dick Butkus, LB, 1965-1973 25. Malcolm Sex - Deacon Jones, DE, 1961-1974 26. Self Polluted - Otto Graham, QB, 1946-1955 27. Too Big a Man Too Say - Chuck Bednarik, LB, 1949-1962 28. PJeff - Marcus Allen, RB, 1982-1997 29. Green Habit - Bruce Smith, DE, 1985-2003 30. corduroy_blazer - Brett Favre, QB, 1991-Current 31. SweetReminisce87 - Roosevelt Brown, T, 1953-1965 32. Peter Van Wieren - Ray Nitschke, LB, 1958-1972 33. ms11781 - Dick Lane, DB, 1952-1965 34. Wes C. Addle - Emmitt Smith, RB, 1990-2004 35. parchy - Mike Singletary, LB, 1981-1992 36. pearljamfan80 - Eric Dickerson, RB, 1983-1993 37. pearljamfan80 - Jack Ham, LB, 1971-1982 38. parchy - Tony Dorsett, RB, 1977-1988 39. Wes C. Addle - Ray Lewis, LB, 1996-Current 40. ms11781 - O.J. Simpson, RB, 1969-1979 41. Peter Van Wieren - Gale Sayers, RB, 1965-1971 42. SweetReminisce87 - Alan Page, DT, 1967-1981 43. corduroy_blazer - Merlin Olsen, DT, 1962-1976 44. Green Habit - Howie Long, DE, 1981-1993 45. PJeff - Gene Upshaw, G, 1967-1981 46. Too Big a Man Too Say - Mike Webster, C, 1974-1990 47. Self Polluted - Lance Alworth, WR, 1962-1972 48. Malcolm Sex - Gino Marchetti, DE, 1952-1966 49. Malcolm Sex - Sammy Baugh, QB, 1937-1952 50. Self Polluted - Earl Campbell, RB, 1978-1985 51. Too Big a Man Too Say - Steve Largent, WR, 1976-1989 52. PJeff - Jack Youngblood, DE, 1971-1984 53. Green Habit - Marshall Faulk, RB, 1994-2005 54. corduroy_blazer - Jim Parker, T-G, 1957-1967 55. SweetReminisce87 - Ted Hendricks, LB, 1969-1983 56. Peter Van Wieren - Mel Blount, CB, 1970-1983 57. ms11781 - Forrest Gregg, OL, 1956-1971 58. Wes C. Addle - Rod Woodson, DB, 1987-2003 59. parchy - Cris Carter, WR, 1987-2002 60. pearljamfan80 - Richard Dent, DE, 1983-1997 61. pearljamfan80 - Kellen Winslow, TE, 1979-1987 62. parchy - Larry Allen, G, 1994-2007 63. Wes C. Addle - Junior Seau, LB, 1990-2007 64. ms11781 - Derrick Thomas, LB, 1989-1999 65. Peter Van Wieren - Art Shell, T, 1968-1982 66. SweetReminisce87 - LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, 2001-Current 67. corduroy_blazer - Michael Haynes, DB, 1976-1989 68. Green Habit - Harry Carson, LB, 1976-1988 69. PJeff - Terrell Owens, WR, 1996-Current 70. Too Big a Man Too Say - Lee Roy Selmon, DE, 1976-1984 71. Self Polluted - Dan Dierdorf, T, 1971-1983 72. Malcolm Sex - Jim Thorpe, TB/E/FB, 1920-1928 73. Malcolm Sex - Darrell Green, DB, 1983-2002 74. Self Polluted - Carl Eller, DE, 1964-1979 75. Too Big a Man Too Say - Willie Brown, DB, 1963-1978 76. PJeff - Michael Strahan, DE, 1993-2007 77. Green Habit - Marvin Harrison, WR, 1996-Current 78. corduroy_blazer - John Randle, DT, 1990-2003 79. SweetReminisce87 - Michael Irvin, WR, 1988-1999 80. Peter Van Wieren - Larry Little, G, 1967-1980 81. ms11781 - Jonathan Ogden, OT, 1996-2007 82. Wes C. Addle - Leo Nomellini, DT, 1950-1963 83. parchy - Tim Brown, WR, 1988-2004 84. pearljamfan80 - Mark Gastineau, DE, 1979-1988 85. pearljamfan80 - Derrick Brooks, LB, 1995-Current 86. parchy - Paul Krause, DB, 1964-1979 87. Wes C. Addle - Jackie Slater, T, 1976-1995 88. ms11781 - Buck Buchanan, DT, 1963-1975 89. Peter Van Wieren - Larry Wilson, FS, 1960-1972 90. SweetReminisce87 - Kevin Greene, LB, 1985-1999 91. corduroy_blazer - Willie Lanier, LB, 1967-1977 92. Green Habit - Walter Jones, T, 1997-2007 93. PJeff - Jim Otto, C, 1960-1974 94. Too Big a Man Too Say - Fred Biletnikoff, WR, 1965-1978 95. Self Polluted - Chris Doleman, DE, 1985-1999 96. Malcolm Sex - Herb Adderley, CB, 1961-1972 97. Malcolm Sex - Lynn Swann, WR, 1974-1982 98. Self Polluted - Orlando Pace, 1997-Current 99. Too Big a Man Too Say -Warren Sapp, DT, 1995-2007 100. PJeff - Champ Bailey, CB, 1999-Current 101. Green Habit - Randy Gradishar, LB, 1974-1983 102. corduroy_blazer - Willie Roaf, T, 1993-2005 103. SweetReminisce87 - Sam Huff, LB, 1956-1969 104. Peter Van Wieren - Raymond Berry, WR, 1955-1967 105. ms11781 - Nick Buoniconti, LB, 1962-1976 106. Wes C. Addle - Art Monk, WR, 1980-1995 107. parchy - Gary Zimmerman, T, 1986-1997 108. pearljamfan80 - Steve Atwater, FS, 1989-1999 109. pearljamfan80 - Drew Pearson, WR, 1973-1983 110. parchy - Simeon Rice, DE, 1996-2007 111. Wes C. Addle - Mike Ditka, TE, 1961-1972 112. ms11781 - Ken Houston, SS, 1967-1980 113. Peter Van Wieren - Jason Taylor, DE, 1997-Current 114. SweetReminisce87 - Mike Munchak, G, 1982-1993 115. corduroy_blazer - Bobby Bell, LB, 1963-1974 116. Green Habit - Emmit Thomas, CB, 1966-1978 117. PJeff - Jack Tatum, FS, 1971-1980 118. Too Big a Man Too Say - Dwight Stephenson, C, 1980-1987 119. Self Polluted - Andre Tippett, LB, 1982-1993 120. Malcolm Sex - Bill George, LB, 1952-1966 121. Malcolm Sex - Marion Motley, FB, 1946-1955 122. Self Polluted - Isaac Bruce, WR, 1994-Current 123. Too Big a Man Too Say - Willie Wood, FS, 1960-1971 124. PJeff - Charles Haley, LB, 1986-1999 125. Green Habit - Zach Thomas, LB, 1996-Current 126. corduroy_blazer - Torry Holt, WR, 1999-Current 127. SweetReminisce87 - Dan Hampton, DE/DT, 1979-1990 128. Peter Van Wieren - James Lofton, WR, 1978-1993 129. ms11781 - Bronko Nagurski, FB, 1930-1943 130. Wes C. Addle - Lester Hayes, CB, 1977-1986 131. parchy - Bob Hayes, WR, 1965-1975 132. pearljamfan80 - Roger Staubach, QB, 1969-1979 133. pearljamfan80 - Ron Yary, T, 1968-1982 134. parchy - Mel Renfro, DB, 1964-1977 135. Wes C. Addle - Don Maynard, WR, 1958-1973 136. ms11781 - Fred Dean, DE, 1975-1985 137. Peter Van Wieren - Karl Mecklenburg, LB, 1983-1994 138. SweetReminisce87 - Shannon Sharpe, TE, 1990-2003 139. corduroy_blazer - Jim Johnson, CB, 1961-1976 140. Green Habit - Rod Smith, WR, 1995-2006 141. PJeff - Greg Lloyd, LB, 1988-1998 142. Too Big a Man Too Say - John Mackey, TE, 1963-1972 143. Self Polluted - Emlen Tunnell, DB, 1948-1961 144. Malcolm Sex - Mick Tingelhoff, C, 1962-1978 145. Malcolm Sex - Jim Lachey, T, 1985-1995 146. Self Polluted - Thurman Thomas, RB, 1988-2000 147. Too Big a Man Too Say - Dave Wilcox, LB, 1964-1974 148. PJeff - Bo Jackson, RB, 1987-1990 149. Green Habit - Jerome Bettis, RB, 1993-2005 150. corduroy_blazer - Brian Dawkins, FS, 1996-Current 151. SweetReminisce87 - Ed Reed, SS, 2002-Current 152. Peter Van Wieren - Adrian Peterson, RB, 2007-Current 153. ms11781 - John Stallworth, WR, 1974-1987 154. Wes C. Addle - Len Dawson, QB, 1957-1975 155. parchy - Brian Urlacher, LB, 2000-Current 156. pearljamfan80 - Andre Reed, WR, 1985-2000 157. pearljamfan80 - Frank Minnifield, CB, 1984-1992 158. parchy - Aeneas Williams, CB, 1991-2004 159. Wes C. Addle - Jack Christiansen, DB, 1951-1958 160. ms11781 - Joe Schmidt, LB, 1953-1965 161. Peter Van Wieren - Lem Barney, CB, 1967-1977 162. SweetReminisce87 - Paul Warfield, WR, 1964-1977 163. corduroy_blazer - Tony Gonzalez, TE, 1997-Current 164. Green Habit - John Lynch, SS, 1993-2007 165. PJeff - Troy Aikman, QB, 1989-2000 166. Too Big a Man Too Say - Art Donovan, DT, 1950-1961 167. Self Polluted - Rodney Harrison, SS, 1994-Current "Mr. Irrelevant" 168. Malcolm Sex - Willie Davis, DT, 1958-1969
Competitors Rankings Will Set Conferences and Divisions: AFC EAST parchy(50pts.)
Regular Season: (2 Week Voting) 9-October 2008 Thru 24-October 2008 GM 1: Team Self Polluted 5-5 Team pearljamfan80 (Invesco Field at Mile High) GM 2: Team Green Habit 5-5 Team SweetReminisce87 (Giants Stadium) GM 3: Team Too Big a Man Too Say 4-6 Team PJeff (Shea Stadium)[/spoiler] GM 4: Team corduroy_blazer versus Team Wes C. Addle (Qwest Field) GM 5: Team Peter Van Wieren versus Team ms11781 (Old Foxboro Stadium) GM 6: Team parchy vs. Team Malcolm Sex (Nickerson Field) GM 7: Team parchy versus Team Self Polluted (Gillette Stadium) GM 8: Team Wes C. Addle versus Team PJeff (Shea Stadium) GM 9: Team Malcolm Sex versus Team Green Habit (Mile High Stadium) GM 10: Team pearljamfan80 versus Team SweetReminisce87 (Giants Stadium) GM 11: Team Peter Van Wieren versus Team corduroy_blazer (Lambeau Field) GM 12: Team ms11781 vs. Team Too Big a Man Too Say (Soldier Field) GM 13: Team Malcolm Sex versus Team corduroy_blazer (Lambeau Field) GM 14: Team ms11781 versus Team parchy (Texas Stadium) GM 15: Team Self Polluted versus Team Peter Van Wieren (Candlestick Park) GM 16: Team pearljamfan80 versus Team Too Big a Man Too Say (Soldier Field) GM 17: Team PJeff versus Team Green Habit (Mile High Stadium) GM 18: Team SweetReminisce87 versus Team Wes C. Addle (Qwest Field) GM 19: Team ms11781 versus Team Wes C. Addle (Qwest Field) GM 20: Team pearljamfan80 versus Team Malcolm Sex (Nickerson Field) GM 21: Team SweetReminisce87 versus Team Self Polluted (Gillette Stadium) GM 22: Team Too Big a Man Too Say versus Team Peter Van Wieren (Candlestick Park) GM 23: Team corduroy_blazer versus Team PJeff (Shea Stadium) GM 24: Team Green Habit versus Team parchy (Texas Stadium) GM 25: Team PJeff versus Team SweetReminisce87 (Giants Stadium) GM 26: Team Malcolm Sex versus Team ms11781 (Old Foxboro Stadium) GM 27: Team corduroy_blazer versus Team Self Polluted (Gillette Stadium) GM 28: Team Peter Van Wieren versus Team parchy (Texas Stadium) GM 29: Team Wes C. Addle versus Team pearljamfan80 (Invesco Field at Mile High) GM 30: Team Green Habit vs. Team Too Big a Man Too Say (Soldier Field) GM 31: Team Wes C. Addle versus Team Peter Van Wieren (Candlestick Park) GM 32: Team Self Polluted versus Team Green Habit (Mile High Stadium) GM 33: Team SweetReminisce87 versus Team Malcolm Sex (Nickerson Field) GM 34: Team ms11781 versus Team PJeff (Shea Stadium) GM 35: Team Too Big a Man Too Say versus Team corduroy_blazer (Lambeau Field) GM 36: Team pearljamfan80 versus Team parchy (Texas Stadium) GM 37: Team corduroy_blazer versus Team ms11781 (Old Foxboro Stadium) GM 38: Team parchy versus Team SweetReminisce87 (Giants Stadium) GM 39: Team Malcolm Sex versus Team Self Polluted (Gillette Stadium) GM 40: Team PJeff versus Team Peter Van Wieren (Candlestick Park) GM 41: Team Too Big a Man Too Say versus Team Wes C. Addle (Qwest Field) GM 42: Team Green Habit versus Team pearljamfan80 (Invesco Field at Mile High)
Games Will Be Televised: Thursday Night Football on NFLNetwork NFL on CBS NFL on FOX Sunday Night Football on NBC Monday Night Football on ESPN
Wildcard "Weekend" 27-October 2008 AFC: #1 Seed versus #4 Seed AFC: #3 Seed versus #2 Seed NFC: #1 Seed versus #4 Seed NFC: #3 Seed versus #2 Seed
Championship "Weekend" 29-October 2008 AFC: Wildcard Winner #1 versus Wildcard Winner #2 NFC: Wildcard Winner #1 versus Wildcard Winner #2
RM Super Bowl 31-October 2008 AFC versus NFC
**EDIT** If you think you are opposed to "Full Season" just because it's going to drag out the Voting Period and you don't want to make sure to be online for everyday. YOu'll already know all the matches before hand for all 7 Weeks (42 games) so you can just PM me your winners of the matches before the actual Voting Period.
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Post subject: Re: [SIGNUP] NFL All-Time Players Tournament
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:08 pm
Administrator
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 20537 Location: The City Of Trees
Here's my initial thought, though it would stretch the drafting to 14 rounds. If you insist on a maximum of 12, maybe knock the RB down to 1 and do a 2/1 or 1/2 format on DL/LB.
1 QB 2 RB 3 WR or 2 WR & 1 TE 2 OL 2 DL 2 LB 2 DB (any of CB or S can be picked)
I don't think enough of us have a memory of enough kickers and punters for that to be feasible.
Will we have any free agency period after the draft? That might be a way to fill the extra non-skill positions, though it could also be a nightmare to manage.
Post subject: Re: [SIGNUP] NFL All-Time Players Tournament
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:05 pm
Poney Girl
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:17 pm Posts: 45120
Green Habit wrote:
Here's my initial thought, though it would stretch the drafting to 14 rounds. If you insist on a maximum of 12, maybe knock the RB down to 1 and do a 2/1 or 1/2 format on DL/LB.
Actually draft rounds aren't really an issue, most the time the majority of past competitors of these tournaments like more rounds. So as at first my rules were a min. of 8 and max. of 12, these could change. Really the only thing I like is that when we do Snake Style draft order, I like that we keep the Drafting Round at an Even number, so that it starts and finishes with the #1 order of the draft.
1 QB 2 RB 3 WR or 2 WR & 1 TE 2 OL 2 DL 2 LB 2 DB (any of CB or S can be picked)
Yeah this is what I'm wanting to see from the people that sign up for this tournament, an agreement to what others have suggested, or suggest their own positional breakdown. Then I'll either take the majority vote or compile a new breakdown from all the suggestions.
I don't think enough of us have a memory of enough kickers and punters for that to be feasible.
Yeah, we could really drop punters from the draft, and feasibly drop kickers. Or we can add that during the free agency period you could add a kicker if you want.
Will we have any free agency period after the draft? That might be a way to fill the extra non-skill positions, though it could also be a nightmare to manage.
Yes, there well always be a free agency/trade/substitution period
As far as O-line/defenses why not just use teams for that? (2007 Patriots O-line, 1994 Cowboys O-line, 1985 Bears defense, 2000 Ravens defense), etc.
I think that's just going to get too unbalanced. Taking all of the 85 Bears D or all of the Steel Curtain? That's a bit unfair.
Yeah alot unfair, I think there are only a slight few COMPLETE Defenses that are from the past, most the time, a good Defense has become great because of one certain player or position (and the rest of the defense feeds off that one great superstar).
This what Tourney-Sheriff's Positional Breakdown idea is:
QB RB TE 2WR 2OL 2DL LB DB K
(I think we can drop the 2nd OL pick for a 2nd RB, 3 WR, or make it a FLEX pick.) (I like the Defensive breakdown, but we could drop the 2nd DL pick, for a FLEX defensive pick, where you could go with a 2nd DL, LB or DB.)
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 20537 Location: The City Of Trees
If we're going to have a free agency period, can we have more than 12 roster spots? I'm still not in favor of having a kicker being forced upon us as a draft pick.
Also, I think the offensive flex pick should be the TE position. Not all excellent offensives require an excellent tight end.
If we're going to have a free agency period, can we have more than 12 roster spots? I'm still not in favor of having a kicker being forced upon us as a draft pick.
Also, I think the offensive flex pick should be the TE position. Not all excellent offensives require an excellent tight end.
Taking more of Nick's suggestions I have revamped my Positional Breakdown idea into this:
Wes C. Addle wrote:
This what Tourney-Sheriff's Positional Breakdown idea is:
QB RB 2WR OFF. FLEX (2nd RB, 3rd WR, or TE) 2OL 2DL LB DB DEF. FLEX (2nd LB, 2nd DB, or K)
If we're going to have a free agency period, can we have more than 12 roster spots?
Still curious about this. It'd be nice to fill some of those non-skill spots with some extra players that not everyone might know of initially.
I think we can do 12 Regular Draft Rounds.
then we can do 2 All Purpose Free Agency Rounds (which will be first come first serve rounds).
The 2 Free Agency Rounds will be first come first serve, and you can draft any player/position that hasn't been taken.
I'm glad that there is at least you (Nick) that are doing some suggesting and help in what the positional breakdown and how the draft should go down. This will make people more clear in what they can and cannot do once the draft hits, then the draft will flow flawlessly.
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:35 pm Posts: 1545 Location: Boston
I like the ideas that have been thrown out thus far but I don't see why the kicker position has been moved to the defensive flex position. Each team has one, whether it's a strength or a weakness, and it can be used as such during the voting here as well. I tend to look at these "games" as matchup scenarios. Maybe two teams playing in a specific "game" are pretty evenly matched and it comes down to whose kicker would be more likely to hit the game winning FG. Like it or not, that's what some games come down to.
Also, it's not really wasting a pick on a kicker if everyone has to do it. It plays into the strategy of the draft. If you choose to take one of the better ones early on that may play into your favor. Or it may not. I don't know. I'm still working this one out in my head as I type it. I suppose the point is really moot if there are only 12 teams. Each team should be able to find a reliable kicker.
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