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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:30 am 
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Sorry if this has been posted, I haven't seen it here yet. :lol:

http://www.bobbarr2008.com/press/press- ... om-ballot/

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Bob Barr Files Suit in Texas to Remove McCain, Obama from Ballot

September 17, 2008 9:31 am EST

Atlanta, GA – Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party's nominee for president, has filed a lawsuit in Texas demanding Senators John McCain and Barack Obama be removed from the ballot after they missed the official filing deadline.

"The seriousness of this issue is self-evident," the lawsuit states. "The hubris of the major parties has risen to such a level that they do not believe that the election laws of the State of Texas apply to them."

Texas election code §192.031 requires that the “written certification” of the “party’s nominees” be delivered “before 5 p.m. of the 70th day before election day.” Because neither candidate had been nominated by the official filing deadline, the Barr campaign argues it was impossible for the candidates to file under state law.

"Supreme Court justices should recognize that their responsibility is to apply the law as passed by the Legislature, and the law is clear that the candidates cannot be certified on the ballot if their filings are late," says Drew Shirley, a local attorney for the Barr campaign, who is also a Libertarian candidate for the Texas Supreme Court.

A 2006 Texas Supreme Court decision ruled that state laws "does not allow political parties or candidates to ignore statutory deadlines."

Orrin Grover, attorney for Bob Barr and Wayne Root, said that he believes that the Texas Secretary of State is bound by Texas law to remove the Republican and Democratic nominees from the November ballot. "Either we have rules and deadlines, or we do not," Grover said.

The Chairman of the Texas Libertarian Party, Pat Dixon stated, "Libertarian principles require personal responsibility for your acts and failures. Obama and McCain failed to meet the deadlines. They must follow the law like everyone else."

The petition also alleges that the Democratic Party's late presidential filing falsely claimed under oath that Senator Obama had been nominated hours before the nomination actually occurred.

"The facts of the case are not in dispute," says Russell Verney, manager of the Barr campaign. "Republicans and Democrats missed the deadline, but were still allowed on the ballot. Third parties are not allowed on the ballot for missing deadlines, as was the case for our campaign in West Virginia, yet the Texas secretary of state's office believes Republicans and Democrats to be above the law."


Although I could care less about Bob Barr, it would be totally hilarious if this goes through. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Barr steals page from Obama book
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I read about this a week or two ago, and it seemed that this issue only came up because teh conventions were so late this year that 70 days out, the Republicans hadn't even formally nominated McCain. This probably won't work, but Texas is a red state, so more power to him.

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punkdavid wrote:
I read about this a week or two ago, and it seemed that this issue only came up because the conventions were so late this year that 70 days out, the Republicans hadn't even formally nominated McCain. This probably won't work, but Texas is a red state, so more power to him.


Any likelihood that the election cycle will be any shorter 4 years from now? This is something of a marathon.


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punkdavid wrote:
I read about this a week or two ago, and it seemed that this issue only came up because the conventions were so late this year that 70 days out, the Republicans hadn't even formally nominated McCain. This probably won't work, but Texas is a red state, so more power to him.


Yeah, short term it would definitely benefit the Democrats, but I'm not sure that the two major parties have to follow the same rules as everybody else is a precedent they'd particularly care for.

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Barr steals page from Obama book
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simple schoolboy wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
I read about this a week or two ago, and it seemed that this issue only came up because the conventions were so late this year that 70 days out, the Republicans hadn't even formally nominated McCain. This probably won't work, but Texas is a red state, so more power to him.


Any likelihood that the election cycle will be any shorter 4 years from now? This is something of a marathon.

you think?!

in France, it's about 3 months (though election periods are fixed so they start talking about it long before, but official campaigning isn't allowed)
in the UK, 1 month (17 working days actually...there's no fixed date but you generally know it's coming)

In both case, though there's no primaries per-se, the candidates for the parties (always the leaders in the UK) are normally decided long before the election campaign start. Even those 'primaries' only last about a couple of months, and are internal to the parties, so pretty low-key compare to the US ones.

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