I've actually stayed at the Taj Mahal hotel before....it's crazy to see those pictures

119 confirmed dead

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/11/2 ... ttack.html

The terrorists win when you pay more attention to attacks because white people were killed.

I actually thought it was sick just when I heard 100+ dead, before I heard it was targeting Europeans and thought it was just Indians.

The media might pay more attention though, and yes that sucks (and is exactly what the terrorist try to accomplish).

I really don't get how people can take their fanatism/anger/whatever against innocent targets.
I could get it against military or even government targets (not that it's right), but innocent bystanders?

I popped in here last night and didn't find a thread on it. Surprised the carp out of me (carp, heh) that there was nothing. But I didn't bother creating one.

Been watching, yeah. 21st century...what a restructure. I realized a while back that my 7th graders were 4 when 9-11 happened. They've never really NOT lived in a world where this wasn't an issue.

Side question: how amazing is the idea of a massive city changing its name after ending occupation? Can you imagine how big a shit Americans would take if someone proposed changing New York City's name on account of it's British-related and stupid? Americans would dump if you restructured TELEVISION format...they might physically stop functioning if you renamed New York.

Hey. I'm drunk.

One of my former students was in the city during the attack. But thankfully she was in a different area

well, to be fair, there's been terrorism for a lot longer than 7 years pretty much everywhere ...you guys in the states were just the exception.

As for changing a town's name.. there was an interview of a middle age Indian lady (living in London) on the TV tonight and she said Bombay..
St.Petersburg was called Salingrad for a while, Burma became Myanmar, etc.. only reason NY didn't change back to a native American name is because you'd killed off most of the natives...but you changed the name for New Orleans (it's Nouvelle-Orleans!).

Derp. But Americans were a lot more sensitive to the idea of it before now...as well as to the idea of death and loss anywhere in the world. Anyway, the degree to which terrorist-based violence has increased worldwide this last decade, and the degree to which it is presented in the press, is not inconsequential.



Double derp that cities change names. That's my point, that it is remarkable how easily much of the world is cozy with this. I don't think that the only reason New York hasn't changed its name has been the marginalization of true natives...name changes have generally been in line with national identity, even when that identity was far removed from origins, so a name change wouldn't probably line up with Native American terms. We already have enough Omahas, Chicagos, Dakotas, and Minnesotas. It was really just an amused aside, not a point or comment worth responding to.

We've had the radio on at work to listen to this all day, except being a hospital most of the time we're running around the place so it's hard to focus too much on what's being said. TV has been stuck on CNN Asia-Pacific and BBC World for the past two nights at home.

Either way, yes, this is bad, but if there's one positive to come out of it, it seems like Pakistan has gone out of their way to condemn this in the hardest language possible, right away. India/Pakistan relations seems to be a long way from what it was 10 years ago.

Problem with Mumbai is it's a terrible symbol for how the market system in India has failed the underclasses. Feed the desperate underclass ideas of militancy, and so we have this shit.

New Amsterdam?

I'd forgotten about this!

Mumbai didn't change its name after the British left. Bombay was just an anglicized way of saying Mumbai.

*Leningrad

Stalingrad was Tsaritsyn, and is now Volgagrad.

yeah, I guess I just don't care. I couldn't even find Mumbia on a map for a million dollars.

that'll teach me posting when drunk

You're American, we don't expect that you can

I don't even think Mumbia is on a map.

Might want to try spelling it correctly first.

on ALL of them
http://images.google.co.uk/images?num=2 ... 5&ct=title

I was just teasing him about the spelling.

I didn't notice... speed reading