I think it's just a decision like any other.

more resources for the rest of us, i suppose. but not every decision is the end of getting to make decisions.

I hate the sympathy that most people lack here towards suicide. But I guess it just isn't the place.

My life is better and I don't know if I care. I just hope my brain is momentarily fucked up from the surgery. But yeah I feel awfully close to doing it. Really it would be courageous if the fact of the matter is that I could never live a happy life. I struggle with balance which I think most young people do. All highs and lows are magnified in my world.

I think evocative emotional moments are more impressive than they are embarrassing. That is just another idealistic opinion of society and the common man. And yanno what, there are so many people that I fucking hate. People with limitations, with judgements and hatred(the exact thing that I am admitting). Anyone who is unfairly unkind to anyone.

Pretending to be something you're not is a mistake. Some people just aren't common, and it's lonely. My conversation and function in social situations is just different than other people. Maybe it is the fact that I am actually more bold in my thought than the average person. It hurts being shot down. Maybe I'm just annoying.

I try to hang out with the "weird guys here" and most of them don't have anything on me. Although one of them does seem to understand most of the ridiculous bullshit I spew out. Iunno and then there are my normal friends, sometimes I just find normal so fucking frustrating. Oh and by the way what is considered normal and common is the furthest thing from normal and common. I just choose to also refer to it the same so you and I both know what the fuck I'm talking about.

I feel SOME relief after articulating all that. I'll share it.

Some pretty intense shit in there.

I was shooting the shit with another guy and telling him that "it was all about going to space yanno?" And he said "you are way closer to space than I'll ever be". haha

is it a "bad" thing? for the person doing it, no, as long as that is what the person really wants. for the friends and loved ones of the person i imagine it isnt a "good" thing, regardless of the person's wishes

Suicide is the most selfish thing an individual can do.

true, but there are times when it is justifiable. (terminal illness, etc).

Selfish but not necessarily the most selfish thing a person can do.

my father often said that he would take a walk and jump of a bridge....my mom and I somtimes thought that would be best for him... ...he never did and struggles through life still....

bummer.

I watched "The Bridge" on you tube the other night, it was a lot more boring than i thought it would be. I guess i was expecting video of people jumping to their deaths to be action packed or something.

I think i expect too much out of life sometimes... like everyday or every year has to be perfect. Need to start realizing its more confusing, boring, and difficult.

Well,if you look from this perspective,yes,it is just a decision.Naaa dude,i cant tell you things in a forum.Need to look you in the face to talk about this.Just,dont look death or life like the are two fucking things you can choose in the market.

Even though its kind of a weird book, A Long Way Down by Nick Hornby has completely changed my outlook on suicide. Not like its a good thing now, but I'm glad I read it.

You should read it. Make it like a project. People who are interested in history read history books, right? Why should you be any different?

just like everything in life suicide is a personal choice one makes on their own and no one else has a say in it if they are set in their ways just like someone with depression, addiction, bipolar disorder etc...you need to think whats not just best for you but your family and friends too...thats the part that helped me when I slit my wrists 4 years ago to pick up the phone and call for help...i realized it wasnt just about me and thank god i did because i look back at that time in my life now and it seems so distant and ridiculous to me that i actually felt like i wanted to die...just try to keep things in perspective Dev
I'm not the most sociably non-awkward person either but i have found friends with similarities and hopefully always will have some like that...just give things time to pass and I bet you'll feel differently...just don't make any rash decisions you and/or others will regret because even though its a personal choice it affects allot of people who love you...So don't forget that okay?

I do find it ironic that apparently we have no say whether we want to live or not, that we have to think of others. I didn't choose to bring myself into this world - why should I consider my parents feelings if I kill myself?

If you have children your life is no longer yours for the taking, however. When you make the decision to bring someone else into this world you have lost the right to take your own life.

If you have no kids, I don't think suicide is selfish. It's selfish that others want to control your life.

I'm sorry, that's a stupid argument. Asking someone to stick around when they're in the grips of terrible, unspeakable pain just so you don't have to suffer is just as selfish. I'm not a proponent of suicide by any means, but to say that it's selfish just completely ignores the issues at hand. It's not like people kill themselves for fun.

i think your second point kinda answers your first point. as a child, you should recognize all that your parents have given you. to kill yourself and take away what they love the most in life is kinda selfish.

but suicide is way to complex to have black and white answers/opinions

This is basically what I am saying. It might be the "easy way out" but I do believe that in some cases, death is better than life and I'm not only talking about terminal illness. Who is the government or society to judge me if I make this choice? I didn't ask to be brought into this world.