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My very pro-republican buddies and I have been arguing over Hollywood and what my friends say is their total double-standard for speaking out against every cause under the sun (especially a US-led war), but staying extremely quiet over the murder of fellow moviemaker Theo Van Gogh in Amsterdam last year.
Where was a tribute, or even part of a speech at the Oscars, to a filmmaker who was killed because of a film he made (for those who don't know, Van Gogh was murdered by Muslim extremists after making a decidely harsh film against certain Muslim practices/beliefs). They feel Hollywood is almost cow-towing to the Islamists as a way to betray our gov't by not speaking out on the atrocity of Van Gogh's murder.
To me, it's like railing against serial killers, or cancer. What good possibly comes from Sean Penn threatening to start a march against radical extremists to show everyone how bad they are. Duh. I mean, do we expect Hollywood to want to now invade other countries because a smalltime filmmaker was killed?
Anyway, your thoughts!?! Should Hollywood have made a bigger deal over Theo Van Gogh's murder at the hands of radical muslims?
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Misfitte wrote:
He's a piece of shit who deserved to die. He doesn't deserve honor or a tribute.
why though? It's fine to feel that way, but back up your opinion with reasons.
I'm not familiar with the man, how about some info on why you feel so strongly about him?
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malice wrote:
Misfitte wrote:
He's a piece of shit who deserved to die. He doesn't deserve honor or a tribute.
why though? It's fine to feel that way, but back up your opinion with reasons. I'm not familiar with the man, how about some info on why you feel so strongly about him?
The whole kitten thing just puts him over the edge really.
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godeatgod wrote:
malice wrote:
Misfitte wrote:
He's a piece of shit who deserved to die. He doesn't deserve honor or a tribute.
why though? It's fine to feel that way, but back up your opinion with reasons. I'm not familiar with the man, how about some info on why you feel so strongly about him?
The whole kitten thing just puts him over the edge really.
geg, don't just allude to stuff, just tell me what he did.
Is he the guy who used dead animals for art work? who the fuck is he?
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:04 pm Posts: 39920 Gender: Male
malice wrote:
godeatgod wrote:
malice wrote:
Misfitte wrote:
He's a piece of shit who deserved to die. He doesn't deserve honor or a tribute.
why though? It's fine to feel that way, but back up your opinion with reasons. I'm not familiar with the man, how about some info on why you feel so strongly about him?
The whole kitten thing just puts him over the edge really.
geg, don't just allude to stuff, just tell me what he did. Is he the guy who used dead animals for art work? who the fuck is he?
For his first movie back in the day there was a scene with kittens inside a running dryer, it was real, ol' Theo thought it was hilarious.
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:17 pm Posts: 13551 Location: is a jerk in wyoming Gender: Female
godeatgod wrote:
malice wrote:
godeatgod wrote:
malice wrote:
Misfitte wrote:
He's a piece of shit who deserved to die. He doesn't deserve honor or a tribute.
why though? It's fine to feel that way, but back up your opinion with reasons. I'm not familiar with the man, how about some info on why you feel so strongly about him?
The whole kitten thing just puts him over the edge really.
geg, don't just allude to stuff, just tell me what he did. Is he the guy who used dead animals for art work? who the fuck is he?
For his first movie back in the day there was a scene with kittens inside a running dryer, it was real, ol' Theo thought it was hilarious.
For his first movie back in the day there was a scene with kittens inside a running dryer, it was real, ol' Theo thought it was hilarious.
thank you.
Yeah, exactly. It's absolutely sickening. And, he was an outspoken racist, too.
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A shrill provocateur, [murdered Dutch film-maker] Mr van Gogh was not to everybody's taste. He once filmed kittens being mangled to death in a washing machine, which he thought was hilarious.
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In van Gogh’s first film, Luger (1981), a women had a pistol put into her vagina and was blasted away. Most people, however, realising that the blood on the screen was mere ketchup and red paint, were more upset about the kittens that the moviemaker had put in a washing machine. They were real. If animal rights activists had been around in the 80s, van Gogh might already have been shot twenty years ago.
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Van Gogh had noticed that it was politically incorrect to say anything unpleasant about Jews, so he decided to make them his prime target. Anne Frank, he said, was the Dutch people’s own "holy virgin." In a column he wrote that cremated Jewish diabetics must have smelled of caramel, and when a Jewish woman protested, he told her she fantasised about "sex with Dr. Mengele."
He was just completely sick and fucked up in so many ways. I have no pity for him, and honestly, I would have been appalled if he was honored at the Oscars.
Barely any in America knows who Theo Van Gogh was. He had nothing to do with Hollywood. These are the reasons he wasn't mentioned at the Oscars. It's not like he's the guy who made Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon or Life is Beautiful or some other rare foreign film that Americans might care about.
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