Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:37 pm Posts: 7376 Location: Vlaardingen, Netherlands Gender: Female
So, there's a website with names, pictures and addresses of Dutch convicted pedophiles. It was on the news last week, and since then, people have been threatened, harrassed, got windows trown in, and more of that. I think that's pretty bad, and I totally disagree with a website like that. Innocent people are harmed and endangered by it, and also people who were not innocent but who did their time for their crimes. What are your opinions about this? They stationed the website in the USA, to avoid being touched by the Dutch privacy rules and law. I wonder if that works for them. Maybe there's legal action possible from within the US?
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there are similar websites here as well. luckily i don't think there has been violence against any of them here, but it still is an invasion of privacy. they even post the mugshot of the person here so that if you see them in the supermarket you know what they look like (and people point and stare or whisper) i understand wanting to protect the children, but i don't know how much this really helps to protect them. certain precautions should be taken regarding children and strangers regardless of if they are a sex offender or not. i mean sure, i guess it would put some parents' minds at ease knowing that there aren't any living in their neighborhood...but you still aren't going to let your kids run wild anywhere, right? just because someone isn't listed on that website doesn't mean your kids are going to be safe if they're alone. i'd actually be more scared of the people not listed on that website because, in a sense, they've got nothing to lose because they have never been caught and probably don't believe they will be caught. the people on the websites have done their time and sure some will be repeat offenders, but i'd like to think that a lot of them just want to get on with their lives after paying their dues
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Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:37 pm Posts: 7376 Location: Vlaardingen, Netherlands Gender: Female
The mother of one had her house attacked. Her son did not even live there anymore. The daughter of one had to close her Hyves page after abuse. That's like the Dutch equivalent of Facebook. There are many examples. Nobody was killed, so far.
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how are innocent people harmed by a website of convicted pedophiles?
as for pedophiles, kill them.
It's a question,as Mirella said, of paying your debt to society and restarting your life. Should they be given a second chance? If so, then it's not fair to ostracize them.
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a repeated argument here against such publicising is that it will push the paedophiles underground.
Right now people on the sex offender register need to let know the police where they live and stuff. If they were know publicly, and almost certainly thus harassed, a number of them would just stop reporting and move underground, thus becoming more dangerous.
There is also the problem of people with the same names/looking similarly being targeted.. that has happened in the past.
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broken iris wrote:
warehouse wrote:
how are innocent people harmed by a website of convicted pedophiles?
as for pedophiles, kill them.
It's a question,as Mirella said, of paying your debt to society and restarting your life. Should they be given a second chance? If so, then it's not fair to ostracize them.
but is it not right for someone to want to know if this person who just moved in next door was a pedophile at one point? i know they should get to know them on a personal basis, but people can hide A LOT of stuff from those around them, even their best of friends, so it's not tough for them to hide something from their next door neighbor
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Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:37 pm Posts: 7376 Location: Vlaardingen, Netherlands Gender: Female
Jammer91 wrote:
They should put the pedos in concentration camps, for real.
What kind of concentration camps do you have in mind? And should their families move in with them? .
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As an amateur anthropologist, I've always found interesting how pedophilia is a much bigger taboo than murder.
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mecca2687 wrote:
Human Bass wrote:
As an amateur anthropologist, I've always found interesting how pedophilia is a much bigger taboo than murder.
because molesting a child can fuck them up for life and possibly create a murderer?
And killing a person can fuck the person up for good.
The natural repugnance towards pedohpilhia occurs due primitive taboos, basically comes from the same source of or repugnance towards incest, they are fundamental to regulate life in groups given the weight of sexual relationships in our fates. Bonobos, that are the most sexually active monkeys and are fucking all the time still avoid both pedophilia and incest, I think this says a lot.
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