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FloydTheBarber wrote:
Please help settle the argument raging in my work place:
18 - 6 / 2 + 4 x (7 - 2) = ??
18-3+4x5=15+20=35
groetjes, Mirella
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Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:37 pm Posts: 7376 Location: Vlaardingen, Netherlands Gender: Female
yes, addition and substraction are equally strong. Like division and multiplication.
groetjes, Mirella
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FloydTheBarber wrote:
Yeah but no but yeah.
See shouldn't you do addition before subtraction and therefore get 18 - 23 = -5 ?
No, only if you'd written 18 - (6 / 2 + 4 x (7 - 2)) = ?? instead of 18 - 6 / 2 + 4 x (7 - 2) = ??
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Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:37 pm Posts: 7376 Location: Vlaardingen, Netherlands Gender: Female
No. What you do with the 20 is substract them, while there is a + before them. The only way to manage that is with the hooks, as I showed before.
groetjes, Mirella
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and lots more. That's the good thing about equalisation: there's always just one answer
Here's the same one from right to left, because that doesn't really matter:
(7-2) x 4 - 6/2 + 18 it's still
5x4 - 3 + 18 = 17 + 18 = 35
groetjes, Mirella
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What I always liked was when you have these large puzzles and you can solve them just by shuffling it around and striping things away against each other. It all starts so simple: one sides equals the other side of the =, and when they move to the other side, the + changes into -
3+4=7 3=7-4 -7=-4-3 -7+4=-3 -7+4+3=0
and more fun like that (insert semi-nerd smiley here )
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FloydTheBarber wrote:
OK now I get it.
Thanks.
Even though you didn't give the answer I wanted.
Next time your answer will be the right one, because now you know . I was always in fights about calculations of probability, even with my teacher. With her, my marks dropped from very good to just enough to pass.
groetjes, Mirella
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It's all about BODMAS
B Brackets first O Orders (ie Powers and Square Roots, etc.) DM Division and Multiplication (left-to-right) AS Addition and Subtraction (left-to-right)
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